The Manastone Calculation

[Tuljin]

It's a lot like the actual economy. A lot of people want a Ferrari and can't afford one. Anyone who can actually afford one can really afford multiple.

Someone's gonna come around and say "ya know, this fine piece of Italian machinery, it's really incredible, it's super fast, it's worth the money. It's only 350k! But ya know what, it's worth even MORE than that and if you don't buy one now it's gonna be even more expensive!"

Then you get many people quite well off that would say - "yeah Ferraris are cool and all, buy my fifth generation Corvette that I keep in my garage and has an upgraded valvetrain, suspension, and exhaust didn't cost me anywhere near as much as a Ferrari and I can't even drive it safely on public roads. I'm gonna keep buying rental properties."

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HGs nearly permacamped meaning that's ~30,000pp flooding into the server every single day. (6 HGs, ~25pp average drop, ~7min pops, you do the math.)

This myth of everyone being broke is just projection of broke players assuming everyone is broke like them. When someone spends 20k on FBSS it's not that the 20k disappears. Magically..... the person who sold the FBSS now has that money and can spend it on items!

Originally Posted by RipVanFish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prices seem to be coming down on nearly everything man, not everyone is broke but I think most people have far less platinum then you think they do.

That hill giant cash for example is divided over many different people, and those people change day by day.

It's not "projecting" everyone is broke. I farm and sell items dude. I log into EC every day and check forums. Nobody is buying top end items.

You need to sell Ferraris to ~~~rich people~~~. Many rich people already have one. If they don't, a rich person knows a Ferrari is nice, but probably doesn't want one or spends money elsewhere.

Rant "against" DKP dude - it's not "against." It is what it is. It explains why the first people to the server who went hard and hoarded a bunch of money have it all and everyone else who is new really doesn't. Collecting DKP doesn't directly make you money, and DKP is worth "nothing" until you have an item. Period. The server nubs are broke and they will continue to be broke.

And then we get the paper napkin math EQ nerds love so much. Is just one person farming Hill Giants for 24 hours a day? It would take them 5 days to make 150k. Is someone farming 8 hours a day and making 10k? Is someone gonna farm Hill Giants 8 hours a day for 15 days then go buy a Manastone for 150k? Or are they gonna....go camp one?

Originally Posted by Castle2.0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, the price of The Manastone will jump when Sol Ro releases. No, Rubicite BP will not go up - it can be replaced and does not have a unique function (hp regen) like The Manastone (hp->mana)

I'm not even gonna go dig up the post but I called people out that turning down 35k for a Rubi BP in December was foolish. Lo and behold, they barely sell for 20k now. The logic for why everyone was saying they'd spike after they stopped dropping is simply because...it stopped dropping. The benefit of the item never came into question.

Manastone is only useful for casters. They are useless for melees. "Epic Wizard." How many of those are there going to be on Green???

Kunark comes, eventually Velious. Melees get a huge bump. People are gonna drop plat on melee gear.

You miss my point and I'm not wrong - Manastone price won't spike right after Sol Ro comes out. Nobody is buying them in the first place. Nobody has the money. Anybody with money is going to spend it on other things. By the time a Manastone sells for 150k plat will have inflated and it's not worth the "150k" you think it is.

The person who sold manastone for 70k in December? Smart. He probably went and got another one. Someone on forum said one sold for 140k? People are WTB and WTS on forums but seemingly with no bites?

The real question is...how many have actually been sold? How many ~will~ even be sold and not straight traded on down the line?

You always seem to have some type of "explanation" and "justification" for peddling these things but dude, nobody has the money. If they have it they are holding out and they likely already have one.

150k is a lot of plat man. As long as people hoard DKP and not actual coin 150k will remain a lot of plat. The whole DKP thing won't change. An item that isn't selling for 150k now won't magically sell for more than that because it simply no longer drops and there are in fact hundreds on the server. It's just not how things work dude.