Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by kul69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://www.oocities.org/xymarra/Str...egy.html#charm

I just was reading through that guide. I notice you cherry-picked the hell out of this quote in an attempt to argue for a charm nerf, because the sentence immediately after he warns about not using charm in groups, he also says that charm is a great way to improve the damage of your group or raid. That's far from the first thing I'd point at in a thread where I'm trying to get charm nerfed.

More of that guide only echos Xornn's guide, p99 guides, and what I've been saying in here. Talks about the power of charm, the use of root and stun and aoe mez, etc etc.


It also provides evidence supporting why charm wasn't MORE heavily used, even though the enchanters writing these guides specifically talk about how powerful charm is.

Chanters back in the day had it in their heads that they were primarily for support. The game manual said so. Classic RPG knowledge of a spellcaster whose spells were buffs and debuffs and whose nukes were less effective says so. Their group mates said so when the warrior was awed at his 25 dps with haste and when the cleric didn't have to help root CC because the chanter could handle ALL of it. They didn't understand the opportunity cost though.

Old chanter guides talk about slowing every mob (even guides written for level 20 and under characters). About chain stunning to help the healers. About using cripple line of spells to make tanks take less damage. No wonder they didn't have the time or mana to keep a low blue or even a high green con charmed for extra dps.

They NEVER say "don't charm in groups because it breaks too often and you can't get it back under control due to stun and mez resists and you'll oom trying to handle charming while doing even minimal buffing and CC in addition." They say stuff more like "don't charm in groups because it uses up healer mana" or "don't charm in groups because you should focus on CC and buffs/debuffs" or "I like to nuke stuff sometimes" or whatnot.