Miscellaneous: EightySix should (probably) drop thrones

[loramin]

In this thread it sounded like EightySix (in Plane of Mischief) got given crowns as his loot table:

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EightySix has no loottable currently. What should it be?

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Looks like up to any Crown

If this is incorrect, and he instead has thrones, I apologize: please disregard this whole bug. I just couldn't find any reports one way or the other, and with PoM's low drop rate and long respawn time it could take killing him for quite awhile to "prove" that he doesn't drop thrones.

But if he doesn't ... I think the evidence originally presented for crowns was weak (which is natural as this is Plane of Mischief we're talking about):

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/q...tml?quest=1251

If you follow the link the relevant sentence is:

Knights can rarely be found on the 4 halfings in the forest around the chest, and used to be semi common on "86" and "donk"

But 86 and Donk are quite different, and neither one just drops knights: on P99 at least Donk drops crowns. It seems very likely that this report came from someone who did a few kills of 86 and Donk (they're sort of a camp), got some knights (which of course can drop from crowns/thrones mobs) and that was all.

Similarly:

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/show...Plane+Mischief

From the Second reply:

The Throne cards are usually found in the Alice area of the zone and drop off Big and 22. Knight cards are dropped by the four halflings in the forest near the chest and on mid level npc's like Gorillas, Guards and 86. The crown cards are dropped by 86, Fenj and My Hand. The squire cards are dropped by mobs found in the forest area.

Having soloed him a few times hes not as hard as the throne dropping npcs with the exception of the giant halflings. He seems like a weaker version of "22" but it should certainly produce some kind of cards.

Ty for looking into this, I can try to google it some more but doubtful a whole lot will be revealed but he is mentioned as having cards up to crowns in his loot table.

Again, just because someone looted a crown off 86 does not mean that he should only drop up to crowns. And because 86 was so isolated from everything else, it's only natural that there would be fewer reports of his drops: why would anyone go all the way out to the upside down for two mobs when they could go elsewhere and have more to kill (in a zone far less crowded than P99's)?

But so then what evidence is there that he should drop thrones? Well first, off, he's doesn't seem to be any easier than A4 22 (who does drop thrones): both are level 60 invisible servant warriors. Since PoM's whole tier system seems revolve around giving the toughest mobs the best cards, it seems strange that the devs would have made two mobs clearly "at the same tier" have different drops.

Second, I found this on the live EQ forums (regarding EightySix and some other mobs being missing from PoM on Phinny, emphasis added):

Originally Posted by https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/devs-plane-of-mischief-peachy-d-vicci.232881/page-2R

Thank you very much for returning Peachy to Plane of Mischief and allowing us to bind there. There are a few other mobs missing. As far as I know, the mobs Zero, One, Two, and Three don't play a significant role in the zone however the mobs TwentyTwo and EightySix both drop some of the rarest cards and currently the drop rate is bad and has been for the last 2 weeks (6-12 hours per day 7 days a week). If someone could please help these mobs find their way back home to Plane of Mischief, I am sure the people who come to visit them would be very much appreciative of all your efforts and assistance.

Obviously not strong stuff (just the memory of a live player), but again the original evidence wasn't strong either.

Couple that with the basic logic about 22 and 86 both being 60s, and then if you're truly still on the fence... wouldn't one more (logical) place for players to farm and enjoy P99 be better than not?