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[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Domo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could care less since I dont live in the USA.

But this whole "2nd amendment" thing seems to turn into a cult or something like this.
I understand it that the constitution is very important for many americans. And its sure a piece of history. Especially for a nation with a "young" history.

But if I understand it right, your foundingfathers even put into the constiution that its ok to change/update the constiution if its good for the people?!

I mean, only because something worked 200 years ago, dosent mean it works so good today anymore.

I also think that people care more about who get shot than of how many.

How often per year does a child get shoot in the USA because the parents are to dumb to secure their guns at home?
How often per year does a child get shoot by a random bullet in the USA?

If the answer is higher than 1, then its already to high.

I value the life of a child higher then the fear of some wannabe patriots who are afraid that there wont be any guns in 500 years anymore.

But again, I dont live in the states and my opinion dosent matter to this topic. Also many things which works here sure dont work in the states (and vice versa).

the bill of rights isnt a cult you surrender monkey.

you really, honestly dont value the life of a child. What you value are internet memes and trends. You are hoked into the internet meme trend the media uses to get people to get hyped up and mad and clicking on articles and links that support their biases so the media companies can get money.

If you valued the life of a child you wouldnt senslessly argue about the second amendment, you'd listen to the arguments that show that common sense gun control isnt our problem, our problem is the way we police, the way we educate our children and the way we handle cultural differences between our MUCH MORE DIVERSE population ithan any country in Europe.

If libs wanted to save lives in school, they'd be fighting for school funding, not to take away guns.

You see, in america we have ALL WALKS of life, we have many different idiologies all mixed together. It was the whole point of our country, to allow EVERYONE to have their own belifes.

This is why socialism doesnt work in america, becuse socialism works against that very concept. I know you think you're diverse becuse its 2018 but trust me, you are not diverse.

Most liberal places arent actually, Ive lived in california (LA SF) seattle, and portland, and have lived in North Dakota, Georga, and traveled all over the south. The south is FAR more diverse and integrated than any of the blue states Ive been in. Just becuse you support BLM doesnt mean that you're less racist than someone who loves to hunt but works in HVAC with like 6 other people from all over the world.

I work in tech, its rediculous its white white white with indians imported in becuse they get payed half as much as the white folk.

Anyway that's an aside. The point I am making is In america we have a diverse population, which means that YOUR idiology doesnt work for other people. But the bill of rights doesnt allow that. And that's all SA supporters are defending, not changing our bill of rights.

Now a cult, is a place where there is only ONE idiology, which sounds a lot more like what you;re talkinga bout.

Your desperate clinging to the single CONCPET of gun control, without even listening to any other arguments, attacking anyone who disagrees by pretending you're entire group is smarter than anyone in the other group, the belife that by limiting freedom you can save lives, all of this is cult like behavior... trust me I know way more about cults than you do. I could probubly name a list of cults 10x any list that you could off the top of your head, but anyway that dont matter.

Ive visited waco btw and ruby ridge, for fuckn fun. That's the kind of person I am so trust me I know plenty about cults.

SA supporters, People who support the Bill of Rights and limited federal power, are WAY less culty than people who have political idiology that drives their entire way of life.

Democrats, yall are SO hyped on your parties idiology its as if, yall were thinking "I hate religion, im a teenager full of angst!" then you moved to a blue state, or surrounded yourself with like minded people, repeated the same bull shit talking points to eachother to feel better, and now attack anyone who disagrees with you, insults them, call them nazis, fascists, demagogs, brainwashed etc

If you want to know what a cult is, look to political parties. Those are cults. Hell, if you are a democrat or a feminist that doesnt toe the line to the idiology TO THE DOT then you are shunned.

SHUNNED

you know who else shun?

Religious cults.

Oh btw if you knew much about cults you'd know the vast majority of them are liberals trying to build utopia and then they end up dead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] only a small minority are based off religion... funny bit is those are the ones that the ATF murders the women and children of! Sad. (the libs usually end up killing themselves)