Shaman or enchanter

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're the first person I've ever heard call Ogre the "master race." That's something people normally associate with Iksar, and for a reason. Iksar are known to be the best race for every class/race combo possibility once Kunark comes out.

Ok, I'm a longtime shaman from both live and here, and the shaman community on both would generally agree that Ogre is the master race for Shaman, although there's always some debate because people with other races don't want to think they made the "wrong" choice, and so to feel better argue that whatever choice they made is the right one. In contrast Iksar is generally regarded as the worst Shaman race .... at level 60, and people tend to base these comparisons on level 60.

It's not hard to see why:

* Ogre: FSI (useful and unattainable in any other way), can use JBB
* Troll: Regen (useful and unattainable in any other way but Torpor kinda negates it), can use JBB
* Barbarian: Faction (useful, but can be attained other ways), can use JBB
* Iksar: Regen but no JBB (so basically just inferior to a troll ... and again with Torpor regen is almost meaningless)

Now it's true lots of things in Velious have high cold saves, and you won't be using your JBB in Kedge or Permafrost either. But even at 60 it's still a useful tool in many places, even if you just use it for finishing off Seafuries. So from a power-game perspective why pick a race that can't use JBB when you can pick one that can (yet still gets the same regen as an iksar)?

... but again, all of this is at 60, with torpor. For leveling up I think there's a better case for both Troll and Iksar, as regen helps a lot when leveling, and some of the Iksar-specific quests are also nice for leveling gear (or so I've heard; never done an iksar myself). People just tend to focus on level 60 because even if a race gives an XP penalty (which they all do, except Barb) you only level once, and once you do you're stuck at level 60 with the race you picked: if you picked a race for leveling you can't change your mind and choose a different race once you're done leveling.