awakened gives up 2 vulaks

[Teako]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Naggy scenario is completely different. We were about to pull Naggy when a guild member who was not on our raid or in mumble logged in his cleric to check ragefire and got FTE. Our leadership made a mistake by killing Naggy, even though that player wasn't even a part of our kill force, and we payed for it.

Now let's consider the last Vulak, Hijal jumped the line and got a Vulak FTE for a foot race. No one on our side knew this happened other than the Detoxx spam concede messages that happen on every Vulak (since we've had like what the last 10 Vulaks?). For you to say a guild should be suspended over that is laughable. If you really want a foot race jumpstart to count as tracker fte with a suspension you're insane. Wake up.

So the 8 FTE runners you had staring at the door in first person ready to run staring desperately at a screenshare somehow didn't notice the skeleton illusioned bard running 7 full seconds before anyone else did..? And don't tell me "bind sight" - since at least 4 of your runners were monks and can't bind sight?

Anything past the entrance line is considered a tracker until they return to the line. This is not news to anyone. Your runner knowingly, and willingly engaged a mob while being past the starting line. Regardless of if your entire guild knew it, one person knew it, or the entire server knew it. The rules are clear - if you are past the line you are considered a tracker and illegible for FTE.

So let's consider this -- as you put it:
Awakened willingly killed a mob that they had knowingly disqualified themselves from by acquiring tracker FTE. Politics, past, and future aside - these are the stone cold facts.

The punishment for tracker FTE/kill is not a concede - it's a suspension.