Is the fun slippping away?

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Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I completely disagree. You must have played on the same server as rogean and friends if your classic experience on live was anything like it is here. I can't believe some of the crap people pull here and then try to argue that it was "fair" or "not against the rules". Rules are great, and necessary, but there is also something to be said for just being a decent and nice person. Seemed to be a lot more decent and nice people on live back in 1999 then there are here.

I remember recieveing a random tell on my level 52 shaman, shortly after velious came out, asking if still needed the tear from plane of fear for my epic. When I replied with yes, I was invited along on another guilds raid JUST so that the tear would go to someone who needed it if it dropped. As there shamans online all had it already apparently. There was no thought of saving it to sell as an MQ. Just /who all shaman 50-60, and invites to the raid as a tag along.

Has this ever happened on p99? Or anything like it? Because it has not, to my knowledge. And ya, there are the rogue nice people that drop fungus on lvl 6 monks and 30k pp deposits into a lowbies coffers. But I, personally, have never heard of a guild playing nice on this sort of level, on this server. I mean come on..... We can't even set up a fair, and simple mob rotation system?!? Instead we're really just gonna poopsock and argue wether or not ogre body blockers are legal in foot races? Or wether or not class A is allowed to use ability Y because the person playing class B doesn't have ability Y and there foot racing to a dragon?!? The variance between class abilities is one of the many things that makes this game wonderful. When certain abilities and spells are being lawyered out of end game content, YOU NO LONGER HAVE CLASSIC EQ. Never in my life on live did I see a gm tell a player they were not allowed to use an ability or spell they had at there disposal, UNLESS said player was intentionally glitching the game. But telling a mate they can't coth, or a Druid that they can't use spirit of cheetah or a bard that they can't pull with lull resists through walls..... never happened in my experience. (These aren't necessarily against the rules in all raid zones, but I've seen enough arguing back and forth about the use of tactics like this that it makes me sad.) And it most likely didn't happen because people would recognize there OWN behavior as being not cool, or unfair, and stop themselves. Not push it and push it and then argue that it's ok and fair once they've been found out. Or it didn't matter because it wasn't an advantage as NO ONE foot raced to mobs, ever, in my experience on live. It was always clear to the mob, kill it where it spawns. No training the whole zone and picking the boss out of the train of 90 trash mobs. Stuff like this just didn't happen on my server, ever.


But then again, I never heard of raid lawyering till I came here either. So maybe that was the norm on whatever server you and rogean were playing on. All I know is my classic end game experience from live was nothing like it is here, except the zones, the zones are pretty similar.

This actually is very well put, and accurate from my perspective. Just wish you paragraphed a bit more rofl. People will skip trying to read walls of text irregardless that it might be filled with bricks of truth and knowledge.

Anyway, I actually have been in a guild that had a tear drop, and instead of making it possible so that the shaman could get to it, the highest officer said it would take too long for the shaman to get there and so, they would loot it to MQ it. Others even offered to "sit" on it, if necessary. Nope. Loot it, and MQ it. That's what the officer dude said.

I understood then how it was in "casual to serious" raid guilds on P99. If you aint one of the officer/guild leader's butt muppets, you aint getting shit.

The level of greed in raid guilds is astouding on this server, and the ones who have the most control of the raiding scene are by far the greediest from what I have seen and experienced. I never seen it like this on any other game, either.

Maybe I just had bad experiences, or maybe I am just too idealistic? I don't know. All I do know is, when I dropped my toons out of the raid guilds, I found I had more energy to play again. When I was in two different raid guilds, both times I got to the point where I didn't even want to log my toons in that were guilded.

For some reason it seems when you reach that echelon of gaming on this server, the epeens are gigantic, and there is only so much room for epeens of that size. There are only so many pixels to be had and goddammit, those neckbeards with huge epeens need epics and the BiS gears on their 3rd and 4th alts.

Oh well. If you want to have fun raiding, I have no direction to point you. It's sad too, because it would be great to be able to see some of the highest end content on P99 without selling your entire soul or all of your dignity to do so.