Russians Behind DNC attack!

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Neither you or i or anyone here have the authority or the knowledge to demonstrate anything

like i already said earlier in this thread, the difference between me and someone like daywolf is i believe the 97% of climate scientists all over the world have the authority to answer the matter. The only thing he provided to counter that is "no you're wrong" and a link to a libertarian think tank (which is not a scientific institution) article that has ties to oil companies and has already said that "tobacco is not dangerous for your health"

Science is not about beliefs or ideas. it's about facts. And again, having a PhD in history doesn't make you an authority on climate change. It just makes you an authority in history.

And yes, again, the tactics used by climate change denialist are the same used by people promoting "teach the controversy", or the flat earthers, or the people thinking that usa never went to the moon, or that jet fuels don't melt steel beams..

Another level of batshit-insane is saying that it's a hoax from china to weaken the usa.. china is probably the 2nd biggest polluter in the world (might be 1st now), they would suffer greatly from any kind of regulation like the kyoto protocol. But who cares about facts and logic.

Take a moment and separate yourself from this specific issue and put things in context with the history of science. Think about how many things 97% of scientists in _field_ accepted as truth which have been proven false in the past 100, 50, 20 years. Think about how many new discoveries we've made in the past year.

The attitude you're taking is anti-intellectual because you are outright demonizing scientific possibilities. It's an approach of attaching labels to one's character to avoid addressing the substance of their claims. Good science is impartial.

Our understanding of environmental science, geology, etc changes DRASTICALLY every year, yet you're trying to tell me our understanding at this current time is correct? The current models you propose rely upon the earth following a repetitive and identical cycle of gradual change, and it just doesn't match the physical evidence found on our planet. Up until 2014 we didn't even know about the world's largest resevoir of water (which is under the earth's surface) and these same scientists were saying our planet's water came from comet impact events before our magnetosphere formed.

basically what im saying is, stop pretending like you know shit