Bad Apples in Dozekar

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by XDrake [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In all my years of raiding in Classic EQ and the little I've done here with Sap at no point did I ever see somebody planning to train. Sure, Classic EQ was a nightmare where groups would have LGUK unplayable due to train wars.

Raid guilds buy into a mindset of, "Hey... Other guild trained. To remain competitive I therefore must train too."

But where does that logic stop? Pretty soon it is, "They are using ShowEQ, we better too!"

I like P99 too much for that. And if I see it I'll call you out for it like I did that night. If I can't get into a raiding guild later because of that I'm cool. :P

I don't know what to tell you, then. You must have played on the test server. I used to be a raid leader for one of the top 3 raid guilds on my (blue) server, and in NToV, the first hour of any raid consisted of each guild mounting thinly veiled trains on the other two. As long as you were artful enough about it to not flop a monk in another guild's camp, the GMs didn't care. So nobody cried about it -- part of raiding was absorbing trains by competitor guilds. And things are hardly cleaner on this server. The GMs care more about enforcing play nice policies, but you've still had officers, leaders, and long-term members of both DA and IB suspended for training each other -- so it's not like it hasn't carried over to P99, even if penalties are harsher.

But more importantly, nobody even trained anybody in this situation. It was just a guildie telling his other guildies that he was going to "help Guild B fear their mobs." I play a rogue. I would routinely joke in guildchat about dragging the corpses of my guild's competition onto the nut-sack of Cazic Thule / Nagafen / Trak / Vindi / Vyemm as I voluntarily helped them CR. I never actually did it, and luckily, everyone understood that I was kidding around -- or at least, as guildies of mine, they gave me the benefit of the doubt and waited to see before acting offended. I'm betting 90% chance your guildie never would've actually trained them, and 10% chance that if he did, everyone would be done being butt-hurt about it within an hour.

The fact that nobody actually did anything makes this whole post completely meaningless, though.