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Old 02-23-2011, 06:19 PM
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I've lost camps due to death before. I'm a ranger, after all. And just like skipdog said above... yes, I'd be ticked. I was ticked that I spent all day at the dhampyre camp in Mistmoore, didn't get a shot at a HBC all day, then the Cloaked Dhampyre spawns and subsequently pwns me. And because I'm a melee, I have to run all the way back from the Gfay zoneline only to find someone took the camp on me. I'd be super ticked. AT MYSELF. Because I am the only one to blame. If I couldn't hold the camp solo, MY FAULT. If I didn't have a few people come in and help back me up if I didn't think I could keep the camp, MY FAULT. Stop blaming everyone but the guy who couldn't hold the camp.

This isn't even about loot. This is about people holding other people accountable for some sort of meta rules that only exist in their heads and nowhere in reality for anyone to review, and then calling people douchebags because they didn't follow them.

The way some of you want it, before I do anything in game, I have to check the server rules to make sure I won't get petitioned for it, then check over the OP's idea of what is right and wrong, then soup's version of what would be douchetastic or not, then send Badmartigan and skipdog and Zereh some tells to ask what they think of it to make sure I'm following their subjective code of honor, blah blah blah. That is completely ridiculous and unrealistic.

If you want to call some members of my guild douchebags for not adhering to your individual subjective codes of honor that you hold everyone accountable for, fine... I can't stop that. All I can do is try to point out that it's an unrealistic expectation that we are all responsible for knowing everyone else's version of what is acceptable and unacceptable.

I expect everyone in my guild to treat everyone on the server with respect by following the server rules that are all available to us for review. Yes, acts of courtesy above and beyond that are great and welcomed... but why are we being obligated and held accountable otherwise? Yes, IB/DW didn't have to let VD have three attempts at the Spiroc Lord the first time we tried it on our own. But they did, and it was great. Bravo to them!

But if they had swooped in and nabbed him without even so much as rezzing one of our clerics after we wiped? Completely legit. Our fault for not having our crap together on the first attempt and succeeding.

Just like the still warm enchanter corpse at the AC camp. Sorry bro. For every time someone lets you take back the camp, there are 5 other times where that person isn't shown the same courtesy when they wipe out.

How many times should that happen before it's okay for that person to stop being a doormat?
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