Kael + ToV Rules

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Originally Posted by phiren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really do agree with your way of thinking here, but I don't know where you are getting the "mob turns FFA after wipe" rule from, and maybe I'm missing something or interpreting the rule differently.

You have 60 minutes.

The way I interpret the rules is that wiping has 0 impact on anything. You still have 60 minutes from your FTE call.

It's obvious if you wipe at 45 minutes, you can't do it.
If you wipe at 30 minutes, maybe you still can.
If you wipe at 35 minutes... maybe you still can.

Where is the line, but more importantly, where is this even written?


~Phiren
Azure Guard

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Sirken's own post in this thread. That's where my confusion stems. I understand sort of the idea behind the FFA thing but I don't understand it if the guild wiping is still locked in. If you're still locked in, it should still be your mob. It would put a much larger cost on gambling with a mob you don't know whether you can kill or not.

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) as of right now, you are locked in to what you kill for 60 min, or until it's dead. i see your point and you aren't the first person to raise this concern. Staff will discuss it, and if needed we'll add wording to allow a FTE'd target to be dropped in favor of a different target.

2) id say anywhere in the zonein room of ToV is fine. feel free to work out the exact spot with your fellow players. as for Kael, the ice/dirt interchange is fair imo.

3) agreed, and the staff will accept the concession in place of a raid suspension, just take to SS of the concession as proof should you be petitioned.

4) the guild has 60 min to engage the raid target. if they wipe, or exceed the 60 min limit on engaging, the raid target then becomes FFA and these footrace rules do not apply.

5) a guild is free to FTE another raid target as soon as they kill the mob they FTE'd, or as soon as 60 min has expired. if a guild wipes, the raid target then becomes FFA and these footrace rules do not apply.

6) as mentioned in the thread, the ToV/Kael rules are in addition to the other server rules. so not, you still can not camp out players in the vicinity of raid targets.

So if you get really lawyerquesty you could say the red indicates all the FTE 60-min, locked in stuff goes out the window depending on how you interpret it. Or just the no CotH, Gate, Shadowstep to acquire FTE goes out the window. I dunno, I'm not a young lawyer.