sham question PLZ ^^

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Every 14 ticks you need to refresh your epic, and it costs about 1.5 ticks casting time. Lets consider what you do between epics clicks.

If you chain clicked your JBB you will do 263 damage every 8 seconds...or about 2985 damage in 90 seconds. Assuming zero resists and zero bash interrupts, and assuming you don't cast anything else over this period. If the mob is not a summoner, then you will need to either keep rooting or eat some hits.

Bane costs 425 mana. It does 1648 damage in 42 seconds (7 ticks). So if you cast 2x Bane, you would do more damage than the JBB over those 15 ticks. Bane takes 5 seconds to cast.

To recoup the mana cost from bane (425 mana), you would need to canni 4 six times, taking about 15 seconds. You would then need to topor once (200 mana, 6 seconds) which means 3 more cannis to recoup the mana, taking 6 seconds to cast.

To Recoup:
Spam JBB: ~3000 damage in 1.5 minutes mana neutral, barring interrupts and reroots. No free time.

Bane, Canni dance and Bane: ~3200 damage in 1.5 minutes mana and hp neutral. The total time casting (barring interrupts) is 42 seconds.

Bane + Canni dance gives you almost 48 additional seconds in which you can cast additional buffs (Pox!), canni dance more to rebuff and refresh slow, etc.

Now, IF YOU WANTED, you could use those 42 seconds to cast a few JBBs. But this is why I don't think JBB is a game breaker. Bane + Canni provides more damage with less time and less root breaks than JBB, and give you more time (therefore more flexibility).

I definitely agree with you. Great post. The issue with your post is that it only works when you're root/rotting and dmg output is the only thing you're worrying about.

Now go solo a summoning mob you have to slow/tank with a lot of hp that hits like a truck (say lodizal). You have to worry about healing yourself regularly and not canni too much to survive the next round of hits, and be conservative with mana to actually down the 35k hp of the mob. Add to this the slows and malo you'll have to refresh..

Let's say you're using pox and bane on this case. You're gonna have to malo (350 mana), slow (250 mana assuming you don't have any resists if you're very lucky), pox (430), bane (425), and then epic for 9 secs where you gonna get hit, double for 300+ dmg if you're lucky, probably gonna have to torpor right away so 200 mana.

There, you just used 1655 mana ( around half your mana pool if you have pretty good gear and in a ideal scenario with no resists) to do 5k dmg.. Not even 15% of the health of the mob. Now canni away while it's hitting for up to 400 to recast all that. You're gonna have to canni 17 times (more than that actually) with canni IV and lose 2,5k hp in the process. I'm wielding ToV gear and have 2,7k hp self buffed at best. Yes, with a mob hitting that hard, you're gonna have to torpor yourself in the process, and not just once.

You see where i'm getting at ? Now forget all the mana from pox and bane. You'll see that it's doable. So i stand by what i said earlier. You don't need jbb, it just opens lot of possibilities for soloing tough mobs.