Respawn Dain after a failed Ring War

[Pan]

The only point of this thread was to get guilds to agree to exploit broken content - specifically Dain.

I don't have an issue with anyone taking a swing at a broken or improperly tuned ring war as often as the possibility recycles. More power to you if you can figure out a way to beat that third wave.

I do have an issue with the staff doing nothing about guilds exploiting content that was acknowledged to be broken since the end of August (post-fail Dain).

I do have an issue with people agreeing to divvy up the fruits of content that shouldn't exist but only does due to a bug. Especially if I'm asked to buy in and buy off on that exploit. To virtually sign a contract agreeing to cheat.

I'd love to be able to take a swing at unlimited Dains in our high-population wheelhouse. But we don't consider it (nor do we consider buying in and off on this agreement) because it's clearly an exploit.

That said, if you're the kind of person who subscribes to the notions that:

If you're not cheating, you're not trying
It's not cheating if you don't get caught
It's not cheating even if you get caught but don't get punished

I can respect that on some level. That's who you are. That's how you approach life and the game.

Just to bring the lack of enforcement to the fore, I'd almost encourage you to spawn and kill serial Dains. As many and as often as you can.

And in parallel, I encourage the staff to rewrite the server and raid rules to more reflect reality. Here are some examples:

1. If you didn't fraps it, it didn't happen.
2. Q11: What about training away trash mobs?
A: This is acceptable, but if you choose to use this tactic, you must keep in mind that you are responsible for your trains/mobs. Meaning if your trainer dies, and the mobs go wipe another guild, that’s still training. BUT ONLY IF YOU GET CAUGHT. Otherwise you're clearly responsible for nothing.
3. Feel free to openly admit to exploiting broken content (see the precedent on Dain as a guide) without consequence.

And so on.

As it stands around here, those raiders who choose not to exploit/cheat/train/grief as a matter of course are at a significant disadvantage to those who do. And it would make for a lot more level playing field if the server rules actually reflected what the staff was interested in enforcing - whatever that is.

But until that happens, I see no reason to being drawn into a jackpot to agree to exploit broken content (post-ring Dains).

And until that or a fix happens, I see no reason why those whose only impetus to follow the rules of the server is to avoid punishment should not spawn and kill Dain at every opportunity. There's clearly no consequences historically.

We won't be signing the agreement. But we won't be in the way if you want to divvy up exploited content, either.