Discussion on 20 minute engage rule for undead bard (trak guts) when next patch comes

[Man0warr]

Nah, no one cares much about Ragefire anymore and he drops more valuable items and epic piece for a more played class.

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't UDB spawn in the middle of the trak's lair with Prot and juggs wandering around him? And you have to kill UDB before the fake trak spawns?

Even if you train out the lair, then send in your crew to turn in/kill UDB to spawn trak, your crew will be in the lair when Trak spawns. That isn't the same as a rush trak engage.

I guess you could pull out the UDB, kill him, let everything reset, then do a rush engage/train away. That depends if Trak spawns in his lair (like ragefire) or on the UDB death spot or if UDB is rooted or not.

Enraged Bard spawns close enough to where you did turn in to aggro you. Trak spawns when you kill Enraged - works similar to Ragefire.

But I'm saying anyone going down for UDB is going to clear out all the adds before killing the Enraged bard.

Is that the official BDA angle? Something tells me it isn't.

This isn't RnF, go away.