First in Force.

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Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do they actually prove which one was there first? This requires more frapsquest and petitionquest as before. This is not a change for the better.

I guess I'm making a couple of assumptions.

My first assumption is that it will rarely be a close call as to who actually got in the zone first. I don't imagine it will happen often that two guilds will be sitting at IZ spamming /who and they're actually neck and neck.

If the threshold is set at 24, its really unlikely that 1 guild will get to 24 with the other guild at 23. If it does happen, and the second guild really does feel like they won, they can petition and they can submit screen shots/fraps/GMs can check logs.

I imagine that 99% of cases, 1 guild will say "TOV has 5 targets in window, guild B is there and has claimed X, we can claim Y or Z." And that's how it'll work. If guild B zones in, sees that guild A has 40 people in the zone and petitions anyways, the staff is free to take action for frivolous posts.

Sirken said in his stream that frequently these guilds document the hell out of their raids through fraps and SS and when confronted with fraps they usually back off.

Edit: By "rarely be a close call" I mean it will be rare that one party thinks it legitimately won and didn't. Most of the time, it will be clear to the parties involved who actually won, and if they want to petition, it will be with knowledge that they didn't actually win the race.