Times like these...

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Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think most mass murderers are gun enthusiasts, though. Some of them are. The Columbine kids were. But I think that was only incidental.

I just can't see how the will to commit a mass murder is in any way tied to gun machismo. I think if you believe gun culture is conducive to mass murder, you'd have to also believe playing violent first person shooters is conducive to mass murder. I've loved Grand Theft Auto my entire life, and I think it's awesome to yank someone out of their car, bust their head open with a machete, and then murder a couple cops and pedestrians in cold blood. Does that mean I have any less respect for cops, pedestrians, and machetes in real life? No. I wouldn't like it if somebody tried to ban my Grand Theft Auto in some rash and ill-advised crusade to stop gun violence, and I think we owe responsible gun enthusiasts the same courtesy.

Well, the difference between grand theft auto and pro gun extremists enthusiasts is.. one is a video game and the other is real life.

For example, if someone posts about GTA and we talk about GTA and blowing up a building or steeling a car in GTA, we're talking about how much fun a video game is.

Gun culture says that people are going to kill you, that you need to defend yourself, that if you dont shoot first then you're going to get shot, that you can solve problems with guns, that its your right to solve problems with guns, that people you disagree with are idiots, that idiots are worthless, that people who are worthless are criminals that criminals should be shot, that all your problems can be solved with a gun.

That is talking about real life. They insist that this is a REAL concern. Just like nosc, he trains in the art of self defense to protect himself from REAL life. Not a video game.

Its no surprise to me why someone who is already unstable and lives at home and posts anonymously on the internet, gets inspired to do something stupid with a gun in these situations, especially if they are not just surrounded with guns and gun culture on anonymous forums, but they are surrounded with it in their homes schools and social circles.

The first responce from anyone who is pro gun, even if they are one of the 'good smart ones who are trained in gun use', even in this thread is, 'you're a fucking idiot pussy in real life'... how can you expect that attitude to NOT encourage bad behavior?

nawimsayin? Im just sayin' [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]