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Originally Posted by Buhbuh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is no willingness to bend a little as a smaller guy, you're going to have a bad time.

TMO is the most recent guild to find this out. We had about a dozen of them come over from Blue and join up with us, raid, get loot, have some fun, etc. A good majority of them left our guild when TMO started up, and everything was pretty cordial. We were talking amongst ourselves about feeding TMO some dragons/ discounted epics from our guild bank that we didn't particularly want.

Then: Good Guys falls apart.

Naturally, many of the players we deemed scummy are now looking for a place to go and lots attempt to get into Empire. They're denied. Lots apply to TMO. These are the same players that we literally just worked to eradicate by annihilating Good Guys. In an effort to warn TMO, we advise them, quite strongly, not to accept these people into their guild, because accepting those people translates badly to our members as harboring the server's scum, and it not only would leave a bad taste in our mouth, but would incite a lot of grief. Those people we advised against were considered poison to guilds/ the server. TMO accepts them anyway, against our wishes.

Consequently: TMO is smashed into the dirt all day everyday for months leading up to Velious.

On day 1 of Velious, the exact group of people we advised TMO leadership not to take in as guildies all go anonymous and raid Kunark dragons while their fellow guild members/ leadership are left with 30 people in rags trying to get Derakor down. They wipe over and over.

TMO's leadership finally gets it, and they send our leadership tells, "just so you know, we kicked out all the ex- Good Guys people you hate" as if that would give them an insta-pardon.

Translation: Even though Empire has some of the worst toxics ever to grace the box on its roster, if you dont agree with excommunicating players less toxic than yours off the box forever, which in itself is representative of how toxic empire is, we will crush you with numbers and gear gap.