Rules Decent Players should abide by...

[tarkhis]

Originally Posted by Deadmantis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zenren, I feel your pain, really I do. But I think you just need to give up this fight and accept the fact that this server is what it is, and it's not going to change.

Decent players don't need rules to abide by. You're preaching to the choir. These people group with anyone regardless of class or gear. They call out their trains. They buff or bind without blinking an eye. We like to think they make up the majority. These are the people you need to gravitate to and spend most of your time with.

The asshats who shit on other players just because they can, with very little consequences? They don't and they won't play by the rules. They bounce from guild to guild, laugh at the forums, take bans in stride, and blame whatever shit they're trying to pull on Aspergers or the server being stuck in Kunark for too long. Avoid them as much as possible.

I think you hit the nail on the head. my experience was on Povar way back pre-kunark through PoP. I always saw NBG being used and if someone did try to scam other players(the asshats) they were called out on the forums and in guildchats and often found themselves perma LFG from that point on, your reputation on the server could make or break you so scamming for 1 stupid item, disrupting other peoples camps etc. could mean you were done and it was time to make a new toon or transfer. We had whole guilds get shunned by the combined group of all other guilds when they went after bosses out of rotation.

In P99 so far, my experience As so eloquently stated above, is I tend to follow Zenren's rules because I'm not an asshat and like grouping and being part of a community rather than racing to get the best gear etc. This server is not going past Luclin, we will all get there eventually so why go nuts and powerlevel like mad only to be stuck in a worse situation at endgame.

I don't care if someone else wants to powerlevel, twink, only group with uber people etc. That is their playstyle and right to play the game as they want.I will ask them if I can cut in or take part of the camp that they are doing and if they say no, get lost whatever, I move on.

So far I have never encountered that attitude in P99, I was in befallen as one of 3 people in zone a 60 Wizard, 13 twinked cleric being powereleveled and my 17 enchanter. I went down to 3rd floor and found everything being wholesale butchered. I asked if I could have some mobs and the wizard told me take the ones on the left side area. They even saved my butt when charm or mezz broke, offered me some drops they didn't need.

If they had told me to get lost I would of headed to another zone as they were there first and controlled the camp, I'm not into rule lawyering or petitioning non-stop. Here as in live I see common courtesy all the time and very rarely an asshat.

I've been in MM for about 12 levels now and that is an overcamped, crazy popular zone and I have seen nothing but courtesy there, everygroup I have been in never even set loot rules at the start we just kept killing mobs and people have shared gargoyle eyes, done NBG just as a matter of course. I have been with twinked, newbies, people from raiding guilds and unguilded people and everyone has been great.

I think the OP is letting a bad incident ruin his whole time in game and should drop it as the power gamers are going to tear him apart on the forums, and the ones who agree with his rules on courtesy are already practicing it anyway.