GG fizzled out. TMO & Empire can make new PnP?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by dontbanpls [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well you say that empire needs to push timers to prime time, then you ignore that good guys helped pushed timers where they are, and ignore that they have a history of not contesting when able. Is that a good start?

I don't say they have to push timers. I say if they really want more PvP they should.
There is an ebb and flow to a competitive guild who is losing. GG has leadership that doesn't seem to understand the basics of how to motivate a guild that is losing.
Whether GG fails or not isn't really the discussion. The discussion is about promoting maximum competition/pvp during raid encounters. There isn't a way you can logically say that you will more participation at 4am est than at 8pm est.

It kinda seems you are more interested in not being wrong.