Be honest, does this look like fun?

[harnold]

all jokes aside, red is fun but some of us do not like the shitty ruleset, if there were item loot the server would be 100x better, without item loot the pvp is pointless (unless your pvping for a raid mob), and pointless pvp is a lot funner in most other games, mmorpg or not

theres just simply nothing appealing about starting a new character from level one just to play a game where you have to deal with frusturating and tedious corpse runs from a death by some twinked out rogue and absolutely nothing to gain from a kill, seeing the stupid yellow text get spammed with your name is simply not enough for most people and we'd rather play a better pvp game unless the ruleset changed on red

for christ sakes there was even exp death on pvp kills for a while on red and it took a lot of bitching for that awful idea to be removed, they should really rethink the rulset and wipe red if they really want to bring people in