Stop the Socking

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll agree socking is an issue due to long windows. I won't agree to the foot race = coth ducking = it's all bad rhetoric. Ya'll won't even come to the table to talk about it because something something fuck TMO/IB we'd rather propose this option that fucks C out of x% mobs and fuck them if they won't work with us and something something stop demonizing us for maintaining a shitty FFA scene while not even being willing to try to talk about resolutions unless it benefits us massively blah blah blah

I don't want anything to benefit class R massively!! I even concede the point that class C should get more loot if they want to dedicate more extreme amounts of time.

In the current system class C is getting 75% for the raid targets when you include the class C share, the 90% of FFA mobs they take down, and 100% of VP targets. If we changed the entire system to C/R and FFA on repops while keeping the current bag limits and keeping VP a class C playground class C would still get 65-70% of the kills.

Everyone keeps saying sweeping changes are off the table, but if ALL the guilds came together for the first time in server history I'm confident changes could be made. Unprecedented cooperation would spur unprecedented action.

The counter to this Unbrella generously offered to make it C/C/R which then be more like 80% of the kills for class C, but hey at least we don't have any overlap between tiers right?

I want things to be better, I'm working in good faith but so far I've only seen class C say "you can just concede everything and that would be fine" or they've stamped off on an alt guild to crash the class R rotation for the sheer purpose of undermining the system currently implemented.

What else can I do to fix this?? I'm trying here man. This isn't rhetoric, these are all facts.