Nihilum's true form

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair enough. But I guess I don't really blame them for using that in the argument? I think I even said that. I provided less value. My point was I wasn't going to be forced into an opinion by someone even if it meant my guild removal. I wasn't getting guild removed due to low play time though.

And in another post in this thread (or another maybe) I posted that elitism was one of the biggest differences I've seen between Holo and Nihilum. That starts from the top, and without a single dictator in charge and a bunch of clowns trying to suck up to him, you can feel like if some officer is being a dick you can talk to another officer and get it straightened out. With Niz, it was the beginning and end. Not to say he didn't take peoples opinions into account, he did, but just to aid him in his decision. In the end, it was 100% his.

But that doesn't really change what I said. I didn't feel "left out" or treated shitty because of low play time. It was no secret I was on a perma shit list for my FQing, something even you guys mentioned when Holo first formed (i.e. tone it down or you can't join). Plenty of other people without my big mouth got along just fine and would have continued to do so. On at least 3 occasions, Vapo asked me if I'd pass on loot so someone who was new and hadn't got anything yet could have it (and I said yes all 3). Tune awarded loot to people who had never got shit to a fault, passing on people more deserving. I think this view of Nihilum and its leadership as these pixel hungry neckbeards keeping everything to RMT or for their alts is annoying though. Those dudes got off on pixel showering other dudes.

Elitist jerks? Sure, most the time - and especially at raids. But enforcing some neckbeard only loot rule, or any other attendance policy? Naw. Nihilum was just as loose with attendance as Holo and you know it man.

I am going to just stop talking about it though. People will always have their viewpoint. I respect yours though which is why I took the time to drop this TLDR. Holo is doing great things.

Oh, I agree with you. Nihilum wasn't as strict or hardcore as people who were never in it make it out to be. Nizzar was in some ways, but he didn't enforce things. It's funny because he could be real assertive in raiding and PvP but a complete turd when it came to loot, inner guild conflict, day to day operations, guild bank.

I don't think he's defending Nihilum, BK.