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Old 10-14-2014, 04:39 PM
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Well, there are four ways in which a country can lose its sovereignty according to international law.

1. Irresponsible development of nuclear weaponry - violating the non-proliferation act in letter or spirit
2. The invasion of or aggression against other sovereign states
3. Violating the genocide convention
4. Giving refuge or acting as a host for terrorists

It's not about policing the world, but rather ensuring that rogue states don't end up harboring and exporting terrorism, and aren't allowed to commit war crimes against humanity. It's no secret that Saddam Hussein tried developing nukes. I think we can all imagine what the world would be like if Israel hadn't bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. He also used WMDs against Kurds, and was constantly trying to get more.

Right, blowback and hatred from those who want to murder innocent civilians, export terrorism, rape and throw battery acid on the faces of non-compliant women, kill people for apostacy, and hold neighboring countries - and eventually the world - in a perpetual state of hostage blackmail once they get their hands on nuclear arms. It's time to stand up to this hatred and stop cowering beneath it. Just because they hate our freedom, our secularism, our thriving society and quality of life doesn't mean we should stop standing up for human rights. Genocide - no matter where it happens - absolutely needs to be prevented by any means possible.

Kurdistan.
International law is laughable at best. The US constantly goes against UN and international policy but you dont hear France or Germany calling for all out war on the US.

"1. Irresponsible development of nuclear weaponry - violating the non-proliferation act in letter or spirit"

North Korea and Iran come to mind. Let's invade them too.

"2. The invasion of or aggression against other sovereign states"

When did Syria invade another country? Also, isnt the US guilty of this in dozens of countries? Never heard of Nicaragua or Columbia or Venezuela?

"3. Violating the genocide convention"
It remains to be proven that Assad has committed a genocide. Also, North Korea gets another check mark here. Two reasons to invade them now.

"4. Giving refuge or acting as a host for terrorists"
North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran come to mind. 3 checks for North Korea but yet no one dare dreams of invading these countries.

Syria may be guilty of 1 of the 4 things you listed. It isnt for certain but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. North Korea is guilty of 3 and Iran 2. China has a pretty shitty track record too.

Why arent we invading all these countries and propping up "democracies"? I mean, the US has unlimited resources and it's young soldiers love being ripped apart by IDEs. I for one propose unending wars. It's not like we actually have to pay for this shit by borrowing money from China. You have it completely right. Who needs a strong economy, low unemployment, public infrastructure, schools, etc when you can spend the money on bombs?

"It's not about policing the world, but rather ensuring that rogue states don't end up harboring and exporting terrorism"

It is about policing the world. It is about grabbing countries for the rich to siphon off of. It is about reckless policy that has left this country bankrupt and hated around the globe.

Is Iraq more stable now than it was under Hussein? Absolutely not. Did a US invasion make Afghanistan more stable? NO. Vietnam? NO. Nicaragua? NO. Columbia? NO. Cuba? NO. Iran? NO. Cambodia? NO. Ghana? NO. Dominican Republic? NO. Venezuela? NO. Chile? NO. Guatemala? NO.

It's a really shitty track record and you have to be a complete asshat to think it is a good policy.

"Right, blowback and hatred from those who want to..."

Uh huh, that's exactly what is happening. Those darn terrorist hate freedom so they flew planes into buildings. It had NOTHING to do with soldiers being trained and armed by the US in Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with the US propping up brutal dictators in those regions. They are simply freedom haters. /rolleyes

"Kurdistan"

Not even gonna touch this tripe.
 


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