John VS. Juan - While you play Elf sims....

[loramin]

Right, what you said/are saying is:

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"an illegal already breaking the rules will more than likely still break the rules"

Now that first quote as written doesn't make any sense. A) people can't be illegal, and B) you say "an illegal already breaking the rules" as if there were undocumented immigrants that weren't breaking the rules. By definition if you are an "illegal" in the sense that you violated immigration law, then you're a rule breaker. There are no "not already breaking the rules" undocumented immigrants.

But if you interpret it how I think you meant it, then (as iruniedyourday pointed out), what you're saying is that people who break the [immigration] rules are more likely to break other [non-immigration] rules. And you further assert that this is true because:

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just pointing out patterns that exist even in US citizens, and just in general people.

But the thing is, there's a world of difference between a person that sneaks in to a country to work and support their family and someone who robs liquor stores. There's no logical reason to assume that just because John (who just robbed a liquor store) IS more likely to commit crimes, Juan (who overstayed his vacation visa) is also more likely.

But regardless of what either of us assumes or thinks, what I'm trying to tell you is, academics at a university conducted a study to consider this exact question: do undocumented immigrants commit more crimes than documented American citizens? And what they found was that they are NOT.

Sometimes things we assume just aren't true, and it takes empirical evidence to make us realize it.