Michael Brown

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Toofliss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you think he would have refused to bake them a birthday cake for someone? He didn't have an issue with the person, but he did not want to support gay marriage.

If I went into a copy center owned by a gay man/woman and proceeded to request that they make up 500 signs that said "God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" and the clerk refused to make them -- would you then be ok with him being forced to have the signs printed up for me?

You can't discriminate after all and you can be forced to print up whatever I ask(make) you to do. I think it's a scary idea that they could be compelled to do it.

I would be okay forcing them to print those signs if it were required by the Civil Rights Act, but I doubt refusal in this circumstance would be discrimination on basis of religion. The copy center finds the speech being printed objectionable, not the religious status of the client.

Turning away a customer because they are Christian = Illegal

Turning away a customer because they want you to print Christian-themed signs you find offensive = Not Illegal.

In the case of the bakery cake, you are turning away the customer specifically because they are gay. Here's why:

When you're making hundreds of other cakes for hundreds of other couples, I don't think it would be difficult to prove that they were being denied because of their status as gays.

The copy center, on the other hand, is not making hundreds of other aggressive, offensive signs for hundreds of other clients. They'd likely also refuse to make signs that say "****** faggots burn in hell" or "All white people should be fucked in their puckered assholes". And they would probably be within the law to do so.