Raid Suspension: The Mystical Order

[Rais]

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Using precedent? Hilarious idea. As if cases are handled with any kind of consistency or logic on this server. We ask for the server rules to be written down, for GMs to keep punishments consistent, just completely basic things that will never happen.

IB trains Nexona on us and we lose 1 nexona, we apparently (for the sake of argument) train Hosh on IB and we lose an entire week of VP, plus we had all our loot from our four legitimate kills deleted. So we essentially lose two weeks of VP. Where was it written that we'd lose our loot for mobs that we killed while off suspension? It isn't in the post that lists the conditions of our temporary un-suspension. Can you see what I'm getting at? All we want is consistency and for precedent to mean something. Really. It would make things 1000x easier.

You don't have to type it like I am saying the opposite. I agree with you and even stated numerous times what the issues are since the very first post I've made. I felt that way on staff and I felt that as a player before and after Amelinda. I even stated a petition that was handled that was pretty much the same case, and it was ruled in favor of TMO. So it isn't like I am fighting you on this.

I am only stating sometimes the stars align and decisions match those of the past. When players get upset is when decisions don't correspond to past issues. This has always been an issue and will con-tune to be an issue.

No one is spinning you simply aren't understanding what people are typing to you in plain english. The aggro to zone in was off IB's secondary aggro where a cleric healed a bard. Whether our train up guy died or not doesn't matter. Once the cleric healed the bard in that group Hoshkar was coming to zone in.

No you don't get it. If it wasn't for your Hosh train, this may very well never had happened. Between what the gms can look at, and what your own guild member stated, it was most likely the cause of Hoku of gaining agro on Hosh. It's the only thing that matters. IB didn't train themselves, TMO caused Hoku to gain agro from a failed train/pull. That's it. It's the price of training shit around.