Congratulations Lord Bob

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Originally Posted by Derubael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pardon, but the issue I have is that I don't like it when one guild or group of guilds shits on another guild. I didn't like it when TMO did it to FE/BDA/everyone else, and I don't like it now.

I'm speaking my mind in this particular instance because I find it unfair that Doljon is getting called out for not acquiescing to the play-style of guilds like bda, taken, and ag, when their entire argument during these raid talks is to not force play-styles on others.

BDA/Taken/AG/etc didn't want to be forced into competing with TMO/FE/IB because they were unable or unwilling to do so. Why is Doljon suddenly the exception, just because they won't conform to the more casual play style?

I never once defended Doljon's actions in sky outlined in this thread. I didn't even speak to them.

I really hate RNF, and the only reason I even read this thread is because 1) I can't turn RNF off (opted out...multiple times...but it never goes away) and 2) the GM intervention in this discussion.

Derubael, the entire reason why I liked (and fought for, against the petitions of many) the 1 1 1 plan is it allowed for both diverging gameplay sets equal footing, and anyone between the ability to do what they wanted.

Lord bob isn't forced to do anything they don't want to do, period. There is no GM enforced play nice rotation in any way, it is entirely a player construct so that:

1) The smaller guilds have a shot at the mobs that they can kill but would otherwise be blocked off from them

and

2) Individuals and guilds that had no want to track for hours on end for even a chance at engaging a mob didn't have to against their personal desires

This is the entire point of this argument - I do not want to stop Lord Bob (actually I hope this title isn't inflammatory to you guys, I honestly have no idea how to spell this name and would have to look it up every time, if it is inflammatory to you I would be happy to look it up and type it out) from playing the way they want to play the game, but that's the entire point of the distinction between "Class C" and "Class R". Class R is restricted for a reason - we are accepting restricted mob access because we do not have an interest in competing the way the competitive class wishes to.

I have not talked to Lord Bob, so I do not know their exact reasoning for things, but I would be more than happy to work with the guilds and make a spot with them in

1) the sky rotation

as well as

2) the raid mob rotation

but only if they wanted to. I will not force them into a style of play they don't want to be into, but they can do what they want to incentivise competition in the competition class, hence the name of the entire class.

That being said if they choose to stay in Class R and purposefully hinder the restricted and play nice atmosphere in the name of competition this seems entirely contradictory from the entire point of the 1 1 1 plan, because there's an entire class dedicated towards competition that do not want to play nice.

What I'm most concerned about is the GM intervention and assumptions of information displayed in this thread as if every class R guild felt like shitting on Lord Bob from the start, which I can assure you is entirely incorrect and a misguided assumption.