Re: Raid Situation

[Babayaaga]

Originally Posted by sanforce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Completely agree.

When competition is thrown out, everyone has a different opinion on how the raid scene should be managed. The better your guild is, the more competition it will want. The worse your guild is, the more instance/rotated that your guild will want. Everyone else falls somewhere in between.

This post illustrates the problem perfectly.

There is this belief system associated with what determines a guild to be "worthy" of having access to content. It is the deeds that truly grant this access which are up for debate.

Example:

Contested Mob Spawns. 3 guilds know immediately through their own respective means.

Guild 1 sends out messages to guildmates who begin camping in an Alt army.

Guild 2 sends out messages to guildmates who begin deploying immediately to the scene.

Guild 3 sends out messages to guildmates, some of whom have Alts camped at the spawn point while others begin deploying to the scene.

*** 4 minutes pass ***

All three forces are buffed and rush to engage the mob. Guild 1 engages the contested boss mob with DA and begins to kite it around.

Guild 2 gathers other local mobs (of substantial firepower) and kites them to Guild 1's engage point training the entire force, killing 75% of their raid force, as well as the puller kiter.

Guild 3 picks up the Contested Mob and pulls it to their camp, gets boss down to 20% when suddenly a massive train is dumped on their raid force by Guild 1's puller.

Guild 2 sweeps in and finishes the kill and loots the spoils.

*** The End of Anecdote ***

This is what the contested raid scene was like before 3 weeks ago. This situation is an example of what nearly every contested raid went like when multiple guilds tried to go after the same target. These events would unfold in less than 10 minutes.

The people who are calling this situation "fair", are generally the same people who would pull some of the dirtier tactics. Competition is one thing, but this is another. I always thought Xegony was the Ghetto of all cess-pool servers on classic but P99 really takes the cake when it comes to how very low some people would stoop to make sure they got pixels instead of someone else, particularly ones they didn't "need".

Being "the best" means something different to each person playing here. To some, it means doing whatever it takes to screw someone else over so they have more. To others, it means being known for being an all around good guy who cares about the overall health of the community.