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Old 09-27-2013, 09:09 PM
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In some cases, no. In many others, absolutely there's a problem. I live in Houston with the disastrous light rail system. There's also that little albatross called Amtrak.

You're right, Insulin is not a luxury. It's a necessity. Type 1 diabetics require it to live. Just like most people require food and shelter to live. Are you telling me that both of those should be provided to those who are otherwise capable of supporting themselves?
It should be provided to people who work and put in if they choose to participate in something that benefits everyone. Those people with type 1 diabetes working are you know. Part of your National Tribe.

Right now we have a problem where a lot of capable people who would otherwise be able to participate in society because of greed and corruption, can not. So I'm in favor of more socialism at this point.

Especially as technology advances further down the roads of automation.

Do we need a lot of conservative reform? Ooooh yeah... but should we say "fuck it theres 2 many people on the planet cause someone says so?"

Nah. We don't need to endlessly cut short all our social welfare overnight without providing people a chance to not need it first.

I'm very on the fence about welfare. I hate how people can abuse it.

But I also hate how the lower classes are made to pay the most for it because some how the most wealthy are above it all etc...

I am constantly looking towards a revised compromise between our dynastic capitalists and Marxism. Because both can be pretty fucking terrible when taken to extremes.

Even the most libertarian societies have social welfare... see Sweden.

And yeah, if I have the means to. I am looking to enrich everyones lives. Better if those means exist in everyones individual control (liberty u know). But not always workable OR the most efficient.

I mean I keep seeing the argument that people must work to live. God for bid we did start being able to feed and care for people without forcing them to work... holy shit what a concept. Its quite possible. Either now or in the near future.

Do people need to work to maintain a high standard of living? Pretty much currently yeah.

Do we need to work hard to live? Nope. Hunter gatherers didn't expend much energy at all. And I have visited places where the 1st world is not all encompassing. Plenty of people still out there working very little to subsist.

Last little thing here....

Is COOPERATION more productive? Generally it is? Damn coorpoeration. Like U know, getting in a group to hold a camp vs trying to do it yourself vs a a group. Makes a difference. Translates perfectly well to real life.

Its pretty much how we got where we are today. Despite the illusion that its everyone for themselves. Even the rich stand on the back of cooperation. They would have nothing with complete anarchy.

I will add that having a productive and creative occupation is very good for peoples sanity, psychology, well-being, and happiness. So I think the more opportunities we can provide people to work the better.
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