Victim disarmament zones

[aowen]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I assume this post is directed at me. I suggest you read more than 1 page of this discussion before forming such a strong opinion on the matter. I never said all statistics should be ignored, on multiple occasions. In some instances, causal links can nearly be established with statistics alone (though not in the case of gun laws -> violent crime, as it violates many of the assumptions behind the tests). All we ever can observe in this universe is correlation, and yet we have determined causation for a great many things. But this requires something extra. Aowen presented statistics as if that alone was enough to show causation.

Also, I don't own guns, and think our laws are probably too loose, though I don't really care one way or the other since gun violence is such a small concern.

No, I presented statistics and evidence to contribute to my argument for stricter gun laws. Then you assumed that I believed this evidence alone justified making a causal link, and that I had no logic to apply to how that link is made. If you actually wanted to have a debate about it, you would have never even started talking about correlation/causation, and demonstrated how this statistics are not indicative of a causal link, rather than act like an idiot, and start talking about Russia, China, and then rehashing shit about welfare from a different forum.