[Necro] Iksar Regeneration Advantage Put to Task

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you have a problem with the wiki page's wording (just read through it; doesn't seem THAT bad), just add a line like "many prefer other races to Iksar to avoid the large EXP penalty and the faction problems".

I have added such a line. The post originally read:

"This writer recommends Iksar above all others due to the diminishing of the negative effects of the Lich tree. Lich reduces your health per tick to increase your mana, and is one of the most useful spells the necromancer has. The following charts show the race, Iksar vs Non-Iksar, what stage of Lich is used to calculate, and the amount of health lost/gained by each of the following three states: Standing (lowest hp regeneration), Feigned (Just barely better than standing), and Sitting (Most HP regeneration)."

I added the following line to indicate that when I say "This writer recommends", that it is coming from a min/maxer.

"Please note, Iksar is not the only way to go. Go Iksar if you care about min/maxing and having a significant leg up in terms of efficiency."

Originally Posted by crkhobbit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not fine with people saying that Demi Lich is unusable by non-Iksar, or that any other race should reroll. And that's what I'm arguing against here.

Did I write that in anywhere? While it is something that I hold as an opinion, I was striving to make anything that is opinion labelled as "In this writers view..." etc. I went searching through the document, and couldn't find when I said that Demi-Lich is unusable. My point was that it is significantly better for a Non-Iksar.

I'll gladly be fine with my words being altered if you point me to where I say it is unusable.

Nor do I think I said that the Non-Iksar should reroll. My goal here is to help prevent someone like me who came along to the last version of the Wiki Page, have no understanding of how Lich influences the way a necromancer does their job, and think that there is absolutely no distinction, and then re-roll later.

Originally Posted by crkhobbit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In this thread, no. But in game, yes. I have been harassed to reroll. And by that I mean that I received tells from a person for over a half hour about how I'm playing the wrong race that I will regret for the rest of my time playing that character.

If you are a person ingame that has spoken to me and asked me about it, then yes, I promoted Iksar Regen over all. And as I emphasize in every conversation, my point is not to make you reroll, simply to make it so that you know what the cost is, so that when you hit 60, if you are someone that cares about being optimal, it wont burn you so much because you knew about it.

If you are a person that I spoke to, you should know that at no point do I force or push anyone to listen to me. If anyone who talks to me about Necromancers says "That's fine, but I don't care.", that's it. I inform, I don't jam information down people's throats.

I am sorry if it was me and you didn't simply say "Nah, goodbye." Now if it wasn't me, good deal. Just in case it was, I added to my wiki bio that people should be aware that I am longwinded when I discuss things that require detail.

Originally Posted by Borador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are making an Iksar to raid with? That is what people should be telling you not to do...

You should change your hypothetical scenario from an extended fight in a group to solo farming, since that is the only reason a sane person would play a necro. You FD, see invis mobs near, you are low HP/mana, now tell me you are happy to lay there almost three times as long on a gnome vs an iksar.

This is the greatest thing about Necromancers. I love how much our class changes in situation. You're totally right, when solo farming, you want to look at the necromancer as a DPSer, and all that good stuff. But when you're in a raiding scene, or a group scene, you play a very different role as Necromancer, and that means different calculations are needed.

Originally Posted by applesauce25r624 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ holy crap! text wall of doom! thank you for the reply, Uteunayr

Heh. This is why I suspect the OP here was someone who spoke to me about necromancers, and when I was describing the benefits to Iksar, got offended by something I wrote. I in no way ever mean to offend people, but as readers can tell... I am a long winded person, because all of this is incredibly connected, and requires a good bit of detail to truly tease out the different variables at work.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you want the best person to comment on this look for uteaenyar or sesserdrix. Leveled a DE necro to 60, realized the power of an iksar and is almost 60 on his iksar necro.

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

uteaenyar or sesserdrix

Proof that Sesserdrix is not as difficult a name to spell as Uteunayr. :P