Senate Foreign Relations Committee votes to give President Obama the power to launch

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Originally Posted by gotrocks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The smart weapons America is using today have reduced shrapnel. The casings on the bomb itself are designed to be vaporized in the explosion. I think we can agree to disagree here, though - you can feel free to die by nerve gas, and I'll take a bomb blast to the face [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Umm, you do realize that the shrapnel deaths are not necessarily from the bomb itself, but from whatever it is the bomb hits? When a bomb blows up inside a house, the house becomes one giant grenade.

So.... we should just never act against atrocities and horrible people? War should just disappear and we should all hold hands and kiss and love each other?

Dude, we are totally in the same boat here. I agree 100%. I truly wish we could never drop a single bomb again, disarm our entire arsenal, and use our m4's and 16's as coat hangers, but that's never going to happen. Not anytime soon, anyway. We're going to have to drop bombs, and we're going to have to shoot missiles, and you had better believe the INTENT to only kill the bad guys makes a helluva fucking difference when you compare it to someone dropping a low yield nuke or chemical weapon and wasting an entire city. Outcome is NOT the only thing that matters, it's only part of the equation. Even if it was, the outcome of using a chemical weapon will always be FAR worse than a conventional explosive tipped warhead. Period.

You've bought into the bullshit first peddled by Bush and now Obama. We don't need to be a part of the killing that is going on. "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" was a jingoistic slogan when the Bush admin created it and it's just as jingoistic now that the Obama admin is using it. Syria is of 0 threat to the US.

The only acceptable justification for intervention in all these various countries is to help the people and reduce the suffering in the world. And while I support this goal 100%, it should be abundantly clear to anyone who hasn't been living in a cave for the past 12 years that our military does an exceedingly poor job at achieving this goal. The countries we have become involved with have quickly deteriorated into an orgy of violence and bloodshed. We need to be looking for other ways, but instead our only solution is "bomb group A, give more weapons to group B". If you support this kind of action as a solution for the killing that is going on, you're either evil or an idiot.