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Originally Posted by Dartagnan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um, this SolA argument is a bunch of poo. News flash, the SolA experience that is in today is the same as it was before the changes.

Lol news flash, no it isn't. SolA was one of the first zones with a pumped up ZEM because it was a completely tumbleweed filled wasteland on live, but it sure as heck wasn't good xp at launch. If people wanted to fight healers and casters en masse, at least in Cazic Thule they had a whack at rubicite. This was actually one of the reasons that rubicite got yanked, because zones like SolA/Paw/Mistmoore/Perma were under-utilizeds and there was waiting lists for each section of CT.

To say we somehow took advantage of this is a distortion. It's not our fault if the ZEM was done the way it is or even if it is incorrect. You make it sound like we are somehow deviant by doing this when people can lvl all the way up to 48 (unlike 50 as you portray it as) right now if they wanted. I am sorry but I will XP where I want to. I am not less of a person for choosing where I want to level up.

That is not "artificially grabbing power" either. It was legitimate.

Stop taking everything I say as a personal attack. I was just illustrating how I've had somthing remotely similar happen to me and ppl i used to run with, too. Seriously, the server doesn't revolve around IB. People from all corners of the server were chugging along in SolA. Lord knows I ressed enough of them.

I'm not saying you are deviant for levelling up in SolA..But i'm not going to stand around and nod my head when the picture gets illustrated that you guys were embracing the hardest content and being uber from day one. You got to the top, and are at the top... congratulations. But the idea that everyone else was slothing around and drooling while you guys were 'grinding away' is silly. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]You want us to give you credit, that's fine. Give some back in return.

As it stands right now, the rotation system takes away the achievements of those who hit the raid encounters first. I'm sorry but I grew up with the idea that achievement means something. It's not taken away because others achieved less.

Any group of people could seriously jeopardize IB's advantage if they were committed to doing so. Just because they are not able to doesn't mean Trans or anyone launch a coup on IB.

The rotation system is the easiest system for the GMs to track and enforce and requires the least of their involvement. Just about any other system gets them far more involved than they'd like. That's the real bottleneck.

Does it make rotation the fairest solution? The best solution? The solution that rewards those who spend the extra hour or two a day playing?

Nope, it sure doesn't. But eventually you'll have to face facts: The powers that be are much more interested in being less involved and getting to play more/hit their real workload than standing around and handing you #1 lollipops in some form of hands-on score carding.

That's the way it shakes out. You and Hasbin have pounded out some pretty interesting alternatives to rotation that make sense and have merit. But none of it is as easy to keep a handle on from the GM perspective as "Trans is killing Nag this week, IB's got vox and IB's got fear"... It's painfully easy to figure out who killed what mob and make sure the rotation is sticking than anything of the other alternatives we've seen.

And on the surface that hurts IB a lot more than Transcendence and whatever other guild is coming up the pike, correct. And yes, Transcendence at this point has little to nothing to gain to come up with an alternative to a rotation. And yes, if everyone was a bit more civil on this server, it probably never would have come to this. Its just gonna be a big mess until there is less guilds (not likely) or more raid targets (eventually). Nothing is more classic 1999 EQ uberguild experience than having both dragons dead and Fear cleared the same night as the patch, and then standing around for 6 days on alts bitching about how some gimp guild was farming your Fear repops. Consider Phinny even being available and itemized an added bonus at this point of the progression. /shrug.