Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by FenninEQaddict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sure TMO or any guild that was in VP would be alot more open to racing if it didnt take just 1-2 of a rival guild to get FTE and loot. If the dragons were based off raid force and engage and kill instead of who gets the FTE shout then it might be different. I have read and heard complaints about a guild getting FTE with 1 group or less on raid targets then the rest of their force rolls into zone or even doesnt show up and they get credit for the kill.

VP dragons from what I know take a raid force to kill and FTE shouts just interfere with that. Your single monk/sk/necro who has been following a raid gets FTE what is TMO of FE supposed to do back off die to the dragon/ae and the spend 20+minutes cr because a lone monk/SK/Necro feels they can solo a dragon.

Also from what I hear the crying here about training your guild FE has solo griefers in VP for the only purpose of to train TMO while they are raiding. So the hypocrisy of this thread is amazing. 1 monk will never be able to kill a dragon there on this server but if skilled can sure kill a raid. So the moral high ground doesnt work here. And anyone who knows about your guilds training habits in VP when they cant mobilize a force to kill the dragons knows this.

I think the GMs, and Guides have made the best of a bad situation since VP is a drama melting pot on this server. There will always be someone crying foul there whether its TMO/FE/IB/FC or one of the other VP key'd guilds and if they run to it everytime something happens they would have no time to help the people who actually need it.

Again this isn't about FE vs. TMO this is about the end game of the server now. You make Valid points about the FTE shout which I will get back to. Training in VP is legal at the moment so anyone that does it isn't in the wrong and I never said they were whether it be TMO/FE/IB whomever. I wasn't calling anyone out on training. I was discussing the validity of it's use in the end game at this time and the future. It's a griefing tool and a stalling tool that is easily misused by any guild in VP that has keys in VP.

Now to return to FTE shouts. Obviously we can set some kind of standard if someone is making a pull and gets to the dragon first to start the pull. As long as the puller is alive and making his way back to where his raid is camped it won't be interfered with etc.These are things that can be discussed. Just don't interfere with the race for the mob with trains or a valid pull to a raid...Or an engaged mob by a raid. It's things to work out sure but there can be some general agreements made to work within the mechanics GMs have given us.

Alas I doubt it will happen as stated before. There is a culture there now as even you pointed out of bad blood between guilds and individuals that is hard to overcome. I just want to point out my thoughts are my own not those of a guild. I have no malice towards anyone and I am not calling out a guild for doing anything wrong. I was just thinking of a way to make it better for everyone involved. Obviously it takes some standard agreements beforehand.