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Old 07-24-2010, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Nocte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yes, you can. Don't assume that more people won't show up to group with the person already there. Maybe they are settling into a groove because buffs took some mana and they're warming up to a pace they plan on maintaining. Maybe they just had bad fucking luck (resists, etc) and they don't need you and your score card breathing down their neck, too.
Again, not talking about those situations. I am talking about they simplyare not killing the cycle, and I do not mean 7/8 , or 9/10. As some say I am nitpicking a rule,. or bending it, or finding a loophole, you are skewing what I say, or ignoring it as well. They simply are not killing said mobs, because of killing speed. period.



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The word "respect" shows up about half a dozen times in your post but I'm not convinced you know what it means unless it benefits you. If someone's there, it's camped.
Nice, another assumption and personal attack, as well! The point is, if someone is there, it does not mean it is camped. presence alone, does not define a camp. You also must show.....


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Ask if they're leaving soon or wait for them to wipe out, but don't expect some portion of the spawn based on your evaluation of their performance.
It is not a judgement, as in, "they're not killing fast enough for my taste". It is an observation, "Ah, they aren't killing all of them, let me shoot them a tell'.



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Then what the hell is your problem with something that hasn't affected you yet? lol.
Because I play here, on this server, and therefore it concerns me. I see this quite often, and wanted to bring up my observation/opinion/point, in a forum. The only reason I posted it in this particular forum is because I knew some would start to flame, or make attacks, digs, take cheap shots, whatever.

Should I engage in a shout fest? ffa kill fest? train? ooc war? Maybe I should put names and say nasty things about others here? You assume this happened to me. We all play here, it should concern us all what is socially acceptable behavior for this 'society' and what is not. People that look the other way are part of the problem in our 'real world', it is no different in the digital world.


Anyway I guess what Lanvaren said, and this I agree with also...

TLDR: please give people the benefit of the doubt when they're able to kill a sizeable number of mobs in a certain camp, but when they're clearly unable to hold a reasonable portion of the camp, that's a different issue altogether.


I would also state, asking someone if you can kill the mobs they are NOT killing is a courtesy, but only that. It is merely a courtesy. If you think it implies you have ownership or possession, then kill the mobs, and lay claim to them as part of your camp. I would also argue, you do not have the right to deny someone from killing them with a no. You can ask them to please not do so, for whatever reason, but you cannot deny it if you are not camping (killing) them. So someone trying to say NO, and deny another in this instance, is what I view as selfish, discourteous, rude, narrow minded, what have you.

I understand the mentality of "man, if I give him an inch, he will take a mile." And in those situations you would probably have chat logs, or a screenshot even as proof when you used the appropriate channels to report the behavior.

It is unfortunate some people would, and will abuse someone trying to be nice and share, but not everyone is like that. And not everyone will deny sharing on the flip side. But you cannot become a wanker, because you assume someone else is. And to be honest, if someone had a valid concern and asked me to not touch a mob, even though they were not killing it, I would lay off most likely. All would depend on their attitude, and tact, as stated in this thread by fastboy21.

The fact people assume I am looking to condone, or even am partaking in rude behavior by intruding upon someone's camp is sad. Just because I bring it up on the forum does not mean anything, other then I have observed or f said situation. Perhaps as part, but do not assume, because everyone knows, when make an assumption, you make an ass out of u and umption.
 


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