So how about that Zimmerman trial?

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Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also WTF is up with you using some random dude writing a book in 1931 to supersede the Declaration of Independence as the definition of the American Dream? That's just weird.

Not even going to touch your talking-points diatribe there. You've subscribed to the, "Big govurnmint sux" ideology and that's your problem. I disdain the immorality of excessive wealth more than I cling to some vague and naive concept of liberty or some political document drafted by slave-holders declaring that all men are equal. But I digress.

The "American Dream" isn't even referenced in the Declaration of Independence. It is the basis for it, sure, but the concept of the American Dream came after, and has changed radically as society changes. For instance, home-ownership became a vital aspect of the "American Dream" for many Americans after WW2 and the GI Bill. Graduating from college is a big part of the "American Dream" for many Americans. These are all new goals of importance and status to American society, developing roughly since the 1950's. The Founder's ideas of what success meant is radically different from our's. In fact, their ideas of what was ethical and moral in the face of unfettered economic pursuit is radically different from where Americans' values are today.

Stop the civic worship already. It's gross. I don't need Thomas Jefferson to tell me what's right or wrong. I don't get my morals from a political document.