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Old 07-05-2013, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
As a bard you have the power to make these groups awesome. You have to work hard, often harder than most others in the group, but that's just part of being a bard. Being in a group with a cleric and four melees will happen to you and you do have to do everything.

I remember being in one group like this where I was doing the pulling/haste/cc/snare/slow/mana etc and somebody was still bitching that I wasn't chain pulling with charm. Picking up the slack is bard's job but you can manage all these roles with a bit of creative thinking - I find if somebody isn't doing something asking them to politely and saying why usually works. An example I often find myself using is asking people to root mobs so I can be out chain pulling without worrying the group will wipe if they don't get the mob down before snare wears off.

I feel a bit sorry for monks - there are so many casters in seb which must make FD pulling a nightmare. However bard's are so effective at pulling in Seb there's no way anyone else should be pulling over you in a group, no matter the set up.

If anything getting into a duo/trio with an enchanter or shammy is a lot of fun - I've duo'd/trio'd a lot of the camps in seb and its good to get out of the traditional group scenario as well.

The problem I have with low hp kiting is while its a creative way to level, once mastered it makes things trivial. Its why I only kited on and off up until level 40, and even then it was usually when I couldn't get a group. Once I went to Sol B and realised I could make such a big difference to groups that was the end of my kiting days, other than a few low hp kite - which was mostly just to prove I could do it.

These are things I've found in my 60 levels as a bard in any case [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
My point, which I think you kind of got, is that you have to work significantly harder than everyone else in that case. Or I could low hp kite with much less effort, much less risk, and much greater reward. Don't get me wrong, a good bard can carry a group so hard, more so than any other class in my opinion. But I also feel that everyone should carry their weight. If I'm doing that much work, I'd rather it be contributed to people who deserve it.

Don't get me wrong, I group a lot still, as I've only really been kiting with one person lately (Bob /wave!). I'm just to the point where I'd rather camp something solo than go through the headache of PuGs unless its an invite from a friend.
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