New Lodizal Agreement Proposal

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kunark and Velious didn't last for years,
It wasn't the titanium client,
There was no p99 wiki.

Classic? My argument with this post is unfair I'll admit but.. not classic.. Welcome to Project 1999 blue.

I'm sorry Baler, I think that's a terrible argument. Are we going to Luclin, PoP, or LDoN with Blue?

If not, then it's a classic server, and the goal will always be to make it as classic as possible. As "beta Blue", with seven years of Kunark, it can never be perfectly classic ... but that doesn't mean we can't/shouldn't aim for classic (if only, as you suggested, to get it right for Green).

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know for a fact that shady goblin & the dwarf in EW agreements are rooted with certain players who had stakes/interests in those mobs. Not average players who just want a shot at a mob. The oll politician bait and switch routine. Oh yeah an agreement can work, especially when the deck is favorably stacked.

What's with this Illuminati conspiracy nonsense?

I helped forge the Shady Goblin agreement: I was there for every roll (and every failed attempt to get everyone to roll prior), and there were no "certain players who had stakes" ... unless you count me (with my stake being "clickfests suck and I don't want to do one") or the twenty other people whose "stake" was similarly wanting to do the quest, and not wanting to do a clickfest. To the contrary, there were multiple players interested in keeping the clickfest (Siryado being the most notable), and they made it extremely difficult to get the roll started.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's the most classic is no player agreement for lodizal.

You're basically saying clickfests are classic, and I strongly disagree. In the entire year of 2001 I highly doubt there was ever ... even once ... two (let alone ten) people sitting around at Lodi's spawn point, clicking constantly, for two hours. It simply did not happen in 2001, and there is nothing classic about it except the server mechanics.

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If an agreement is really generated. All the members of the council that design the agreement need to Vetted thoroughly for their interests.

Again with the P99 Illuminati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] There's no "council" for any agreement, just players trying to make it happen, and their "interests" are that this is a game we all want to play.

By definition here on P99 player agreements require consensus. That means everyone who would have clicked has to agree to roll instead. There is no possible way for "our evil overlords" to force anyone to do anything in that system: the only way an agreement can be forged is if every participant wants it.