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Nirgon · #31 06-19-2013, 02:15 PM

These guys are definitely better at EverQuest than Furor lol.

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Elderan · #32 06-19-2013, 02:21 PM

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Lol you're honestly trying to say that everything is balanced and that it's only so easy because of knowledge

Wow.

Your extra chromosome isn't coming in handy lately.

Let me make it clear for those slow minds.

VP (and most content in general) is easier on P99 compared to classic because.

- Knowledge, everyone knows the fights in and out now. They did not then.
- Gear, P99 has gear overload that most on classic never saw.
- Communication, voice chat has made EQ much easier then in the past when text only communication was the norm. Typing out instructions before any fight with any new people around took serious time. Reacting in TEXT was difficult to say the least.
- Invis pulling, This only saves time and doesn't make the actual fight easier. The old way was to die at entrance and have someone with faction drag all corpses to the pull spot and ress.

Keep in mind that communication is linked directly to knowledge. If we had voice chat back in the day people would know more then they did.

mtb tripper · #33 06-19-2013, 02:24 PM

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I don't resist more here with 400+ then I did with maxed out in classic. This is against VP mobs that is. VP is much harder with 25-30 then the 35-40 we rolled with in classic, but we are more geared to the max now. Dragons never quaded in classic VP. Dragons gated at 5% in classic, I know you think otherwise.

VP is just easier now because everyone knows how to fight it now and it is much easier to communicate. Back in the day no one used voice chat for these things. So a lot of typing out instructions, but quick reactions were not as possible in most cases.

Pulling is easier for sure and more boring. But in classic all we did was drag corpses to the dragon kill spot. Ress, buff, kill.

SamwiseRed · #34 06-19-2013, 02:25 PM

and spawns were actually contested hehe

Nirgon · #35 06-19-2013, 02:25 PM

- Knowledge - after doing the fight once or twice, they knew it and continued to farm it. You knew the fight for progression purposes in advance, but it doesn't make farming it easier.
- Gear, yes the timeline.. heh. WTB Project BigBoy when its done.
- Communication - I know we had Vent in velious, don't remember when that started but in Vanilla raiding it was "no one in shout while we make groups". So I'll score you some points there.
- Invis pulling/exploited dragon haste/farmed gems from exploited mist walkers you can forget it mister.

The SINGLE THING (non-bug / content related) that makes this easier, in all honesty, is the client stability. Back in live if you had 40-50 people and engaged a raid mob, many people just dc'd.

As far as skill or knowledge, most of the people I met here were completely and absolutely clueless about content and most mechanics. The average raider on RZ was about Chuck/Nirgon/Kringe knowings of the game. Here I see people that don't even know their way through Butcher Block and the Freeports decked out in PD lewt. Ew.

Harrison'sNewName · #36 06-19-2013, 02:26 PM

We had voice chat by the time kunark hit. I remember using it.

So that's a lot of words for you to say, "yup" to my assertion.

You're so fucking retarded if you think this is just easier because of voice chat and knowledge, and not because several very critical components are just not anywhere near classic.

Elderan · #37 06-19-2013, 02:26 PM

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These guys are definitely better at EverQuest than Furor lol.

Furor was a great player but keep in mind you can only be so good at something before is equalizes. I would rate him a 10 (back in the day) out of 1-10 in EQ skill but I have met several 10 EQ players in my time.

Furors main skill was leadership and knowledge. Tons of people have the same knowledge he had then now. As they should since we have had 13 years to collect that knowledge.

Nirgon · #38 06-19-2013, 02:26 PM

I will ammend my statement of "average raider" to average top guild raider.

Elderan · #39 06-19-2013, 02:27 PM

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and spawns were actually contested hehe

Not on Veeshan they were not. Of course it was a blue server but we dominated for a long long time.

Nirgon · #40 06-19-2013, 02:27 PM

I'll just say that in absolutely no way does any leader of any guild in P99's history compare to his skill as a guild leader, community voice and organizer.