the EVIDENCE that GOD exists is the FACT that EXISTENCE EXISTS

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

how does one know that reason, has a design flaw, namely, it cannot reckon absolute origins or ends of any kind whatsoever?

That's some fine antinomy work there Joe.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that should and will always be ok

No it should not be, and no it will not be.

Inducting children into religion is child abuse.

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No it should not be, and no it will not be.

Inducting children into religion is child abuse.

You're right! We should also stop disciplining our kids because it is child abuse! You are the reason why I've read about so many children lately in the news getting a hold of a gun and killing their fellow child friend. Bad parenting advice is bad.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

you could always turn up the clip plane, but still. We just cannot reason absolute orgins and ends. They do not make sense to how our minds work. Granted, a deep question, either regarding the absolute origin or the absolute end, of time, which means, existence.

Can you imagine a time in which nothing exists? In what and in relation to what would time then exist?

Can you imagine an entity that was not caused by something prior to it? If not, how do you stop the infinite causal regress?

Can you imagine an eventual entity that has no effect? If not, how can you imagine the end of existence?

We can do this all day, you know. That is why they are called antinomies.

Trust me: a chick sees you know what an antinomy is, bam, sex.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

disciplining

why don't you stop with the coy euphemism and really own what you're slyly espousing here

[Hasbinbad]

sadre im agnostic for the record

[Hasbinbad]

i wont argue with someone about a prime mover, why would anyone?, but other than that it's all superstition

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck off. If a parent wants their children to be raised into these so called "cults" then that should and will always be ok. I take it you aren't a parent. My child will and should do what I feel is morally right for him/her to do till he is old enough to choose do it his own. Considering that scientific evidence proves also that the brain full develops I think it was from ages 21-25, no, my children who will be confused from right vs wrong for most of their life will not be choosing to do whatever they so please.

So again, fuck you and your stupid opinion.

So you're saying there's nothing at all wrong with genital mutilation. Noted, I'll keep any kids I have far away from you and your kind.

[Daldolma]

i think govt legislating what we can and can't teach children is a phenomenal idea that will end really well

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think govt legislating what we can and can't teach children is a phenomenal idea that will end really well

In taxpayer funded schools you'd better hope your fucking ass there is regulation in place.