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Old 05-31-2013, 11:13 AM
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Default Do P99 Devs, GMs and Guides Have Jobs?

Harry and a couple other loud voices like to shout about P99 staff not doing their jobs, which got me to wondering: do they technically have jobs if they're volunteers?

My first inclination is to check the definition. Job is a word with a lot of uses, of course, but the definitions from multiple dictionaries that fit this context are inextricably tied to the concepts of pay and employment.

However, English is a rapidly changing language and dictionary definitions can lag usage. So I thought about contemporary usage I experience. I volunteer some of my time myself, so I know other people who volunteer there, and I also have many friends who volunteer for other things. One of my friends sits on the board of directors for a significant regional charity. No one I know speaks of their volunteer work as a job. Volunteer work is always distinct from employment, both in conversation and when written on a C.V.

So does anyone on the P99 staff have a job? If they're not getting paid, then the answer is no. They're volunteers. The RnF trolls shouting about staff not doing their jobs are not only rude and ungrateful, they're also factually incorrect.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:17 AM
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they wouldnt have to do their "jobs" if the playerbase wasnt a bunch of shithead cheaters. i dont think they envisioned this many losers coming on an emu to cheat, scam, rmt, and hack.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:18 AM
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this would be better as a response to a thread no one clicks instead of a whole thread no one clicks
in my very important opinion
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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they wouldnt have to do their "jobs" if the playerbase wasnt a bunch of shithead cheaters. i dont think they envisioned this many losers coming on an emu to cheat, scam, rmt, and hack.
I don't think I agree with that idea. Think about the total number of people who have played on P99, play on P99 now, or will play on P99 in the future. It's a pretty big number. That number of people is going to have all sorts of conflicts and issues. That number is also going to have a bell curve of really nice people, kind of nice people, not very nice people, and total jerks. I think it just takes a lot of effort to create and maintain this kind of project.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:23 AM
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they're 'volunteers.' they dont make any money from p99, despite what a lot of people claim about RMT

they have, however, accepted responsibility to adhere to a specific set of guidelines as to what being a volunteer 'guide' or 'gm' is able and suppose to do. if these guidelines are not followed, ie they fail to do their volunteer 'job', then they will be removed from the volunteer team, as has happened in the past to some of them

that being said, they do the best they can without making any money for the love of everquest and for the enjoyment of responsibility over the project itself.

they also have actual jobs. those are not related to p99
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:24 AM
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red went without a gm for almost a year, somehow we managed. we didnt have kithicor forest for a good 6 months lol. shits classic. deal with it.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:27 AM
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Yes. All of us have jobs and do this on the side (or in my case, when I should be working). I'm a developer and technical consultant for a large international corporation, for instance. This is just what I do when I have a few minutes to spare.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:28 AM
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and they are not fulfilling the obligations of their volunteer assignment
By definition, a volunteer cannot have obligations.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:31 AM
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Sometimes I think it wouldn't suck so badly if we had a few of the RNF mega-nerds as Staff instead, who actually took this shit seriously.
P99 doesn't suck.

Basically every post of yours since you got upset about the p99 raid scene, got butthurt by your Slave account being banned, left to play LoL, keep saying you're taking long breaks from P99 and yet still are on these forums nonstop yelling about the raid scene? They suck.
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Old 05-31-2013, 11:34 AM
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RNF mega-nerds as Staff instead, who actually took this shit seriously.
pot calling the kettle black?
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