Can I switch toon from blue to red server?

[Nune]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's some strong zek server players scattered on blue actually. You might be surprised.

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I talk to quite a few people from TZ in my day that were boss status who are dormant on Blue because Red is so terrible. It's honestly the people, and whatever shift a wave of transfers created would at least be a shift. What's XP on red boosted to, 1.25x xp? and Faerie is telling people they'll hit 60 on Red before 24 on blue lol.. the "literal" grammar Nazi must find struggling with extremely basic math to be an uphill battle.

The real problem you might see is that people would use the transfer as some misguided attempt to go raid somewhere else, unaware of how Red's raid scene is even worse off than Blue. Which; would then ensue on a wave of people wanting to transfer back, sounds nightmare-ish for the GMs.

OR

People would just copy characters over to the less populated server, with a plat exchange rate of.. what is it 6:1 now? to farm miniscule items on red solely with intentions to sell it back for gain on Blue. This would fuck the average joe the hardest, no camps would ever be open when you were leveling to gear at because of said point, and no PvP would occur because the Red server would just become a place for pixel hoarding.

Oh, wait..

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What's XP on red boosted to, 1.25x xp? and Faerie is telling people they'll hit 60 on Red before 24 on blue lol.. the "literal" grammar Nazi must find struggling with extremely basic math to be an uphill battle.

Come on, now. Math was my best subject before I gave it up after high school.

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you factor in the (recently upped) xp bonus on red, it might take less time to get 60 on red with a new character than it would on your 23 blue character.

It's easy to see how you misinterpreted my statement; but this figurative grammar Nazi would like you to diagram her sentence if there is still confusion.

[Vexenu]

Just allow players to create new characters on Red that are level 46 with full spellbooks/level appropriate gear. This allows new guilds to form that can immediately begin doing the planes and gearing up.

The reason that Red has no population is because...red has no population. People roll a toon there and get discouraged because they hardly see anyone else. It feels like a dead server to a new player, and the prospect of leveling up a toon mostly solo on a dead server is not very appealing.

Making new characters on the server start out at level 46 with appropriate gear would address most of the problems. People could immediately join the server and become an asset to a guild and start contributing in PvP fights.

Is this classic? Hell to the no. Is it fair to red players who have already leveled up? Definitely not. However, it would result in a massive explosion of red's population, which I think the vast majority of red players would prefer even if the change was not classic or fair to them.

Admittedly this idea sounds ridiculous at first, but I think it's the best option for a server in Red's position. The main reason people don't play there is simply because the low population makes the idea of leveling up solo (and being powerless against twinked/buffed PKs) really unappealing. If you remove that barrier and allow people to instantly jump on with a character that isn't totally helpless, suddenly the idea of playing on Red becomes much more attractive.

And really, EQ PvP is sort of a shitfest at low levels anyway, and really only shines in group vs. group and guild vs. guild battles when everyone is somewhat leveled and geared. Let players jump in and experience that aspect of EQ PvP and I guarantee that plenty of them will come to prefer fighting for their spawns rather than dealing with the current state of Blue's endgame.

[Faerie]

The game doesn't start at level 46, it starts at 1. I'm so sick of this mentality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[India]

It's funny, red players want to increase the red player base, but then reject every idea presented.

Red has a shitty reputation and as it stands now, holds no promise at all for the average blue player. So give them a carrot. Give them a reason to come try it out. You might get a TON that try it and never come back, but if you can get a 10% (yes I pulled that number out of my arse) return rate, that's pretty damn good, especially for red.

That said, I don't think transfer is the way to go because you'll end up with a LOT of disgruntled players "demanding" a tx back to blue

Copy without gear isn't bad, but again, how much help can they be in a group, pvping, or otherwise without gear?

Copy with gear,, nah I understand why that is rejected by many right up front.

So maybe a copy with a set of gear (appropriate to their level) that neither gives them an advantage over long time red players/raiders with earned gear, but doesn't hinder them too much either? A lot of people may end up copying over a lower level character.. don't assume it will all be level 60's!

[India]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game doesn't start at level 46, it starts at 1. I'm so sick of this mentality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do understand your frustration but it seems the majority of red players want to increase the population. People are brainstorming.

What are your ideas?

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game doesn't start at level 46, it starts at 1. I'm so sick of this mentality [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red is even more top-heavy than Blue, which is really saying something. The existence of the XP bonus (and its recent increase) attests to this fact, and the problems it creates. Realistically, however, it doesn't go far enough. Really, it just comes down to red players asking themselves the following:

Would I rather play on a mostly empty PvP server where people start at level 1 with an XP bonus?

Or would I rather play on a relatively populous PvP server where people can start geared at level 46?

I wouldn't begrudge people who preferred the former, especially since they earned their levels the hard way. But anyone whose foremost concern is enjoying an EQ server with PvP would probably prefer the latter, since it would be guaranteed to bring in a huge influx of new players, many of whom would form guilds and stick around once they experienced the best parts of EQ PvP (which they would not otherwise be able to do starting normally at level 1).

[freez]

seeing how everything including character accounts is worth 5x its weight in blue plat i wouldnt bee too happy about transfers.


grind it out like everyone else. theres no more exp loss on a pvp death, and theres a 50% bonus on top of normal blue exp.

Leveling really isnt hard and to complain about powering through the low levels is just retarted. Thos twinks stay at a certail level, they wont grind up with you. There arent even that many.

[freez]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red is even more top-heavy than Blue, which is really saying something.

Thats funny... i have no idea who you are.. to say red is more top heavy than blue is stupid.

I dont even feel like writing out a paragraph to explain why this statement is just 100% false.

[freez]

exactly.

buy a character

harrison fuming

apparently he doesnt like it when people quit thier main at 38 and buy a new char at 44..


ive been 60 for like half a year too. argument null negus.

edit : harrison doesnt have a character above level 5 on any server. hes that bad ;/

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