Nocturne

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Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How do you explain "living fossils" like the coelacanth? Here is an example of something existing supposedly for millions of years virtually unchanged.

Perhaps the mother fucker is comfortable with its self and doesn't feel the need to change what it is.

Guess maybe all the older cavemen were just more of god's creations and he just got drunk towards the end while making them.

Who says that there isn't a stopping point with evolution? Perhaps some shit are better at it than others? Who is to say Aliens didn't collect a bunch of shit and just drop it off as their on little scientific experiment?

You faggots can go back and forth with extremes of science, but none of you nor most of the "experts" of the world really know what the fuck they are talking about when it comes to this part of "science" because, well, no one can base it off anything but "faith" and Faith has no business in my fucking Science.

Evolution when compared to Religion is a much more solid foundation in my opinion, at least you can look at something and go... yeah, there are signs that evolution is/has happened with this.

[Frieza_Prexus]

Originally Posted by Nhilist_santa

How do you explain "living fossils" like the coelacanth? Here is an example of something existing supposedly for millions of years virtually unchanged.

The explanation generally boils down to a number of factors, one of which is statistics. It stands to reason that if most species changes at an average rate that you'd also have some outliers that "leaped" ahead in the evolutionary scheme. The reverse is also true, that some species will be far-less differentiated for any number of factors, and will be outliers on the other side of the scale.

The outliers can be produced by a number of factors from sheer randomness to environmental reasons. For example, a very stable and sustained environment is one factor that can lead to living fossils. The creatures in such a habitat are not "rewarded" for mutations, and some environments might also "punish" what could otherwise be a beneficial mutation in another environment. Consider also the vast number of independent species. If their evolution in anyway resembles something like a bell-curve in terms of average rate of "progress" there's bound to be a few stragglers at the back many standard deviations behind in terms of how many changes they've experienced as a species over the ages.

[Hitchens]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...s-they-evolve/

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evolution when compared to Religion is a much more solid foundation in my opinion, at least you can look at something and go... yeah, there are signs that evolution is/has happened with this.

This is to say, based off the faith that evolution is correct (which I think it is, but not to the extremes that most people think of when they hear evolution).

Last I looked in the bible, most of that shit was already proven incorrect... by actual non-faith based science.

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Originally Posted by Hitchens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/...s-they-evolve/

Well there you go, someone google machined your fossil fish brah.

[Hitchens]

That one I will admit to Googling.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strange that video is 40+ min long. You must have watched it very quickly. That or you did not watch it but immediately looked online for some debunker to do your thinking for you.

You guys spout about evolution but all you do is post other peoples words to detract from your own lack of understanding.

Everything I wrote was authored by me.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"faith" and Faith has no business in my fucking Science.

Science is 100% faith-based.

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Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Science is 100% faith-based.

And now you're stupid.

There are things in Science that you can take and do yourself and it will work the same as someone on the other side of the planet.

You don't need faith for that, only an experiment followed by the proof.

[Hailto]

Originally Posted by Nocturne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fact that even a tiger and a lion can't produce fertile offspring should be all of the evidence you need to realize that evolution is bullshit but there is oh so much more. These two animals are extremely similar and according to how evolution is supposed to work, there isn't a single logical reason as to why this and so many other exceptions exist.

Is this a troll or serious? Im going to assume you're not a young earth creationist and accept the fact that the earth is billions of years old. Evolution is an extremely slow process relative to what humans comprehend. The fact that two different species cannot product fertile offspring does nothing to refute evolution. Evolution is driven by natural selection, its not just something that happens randomly.