Economy barrier for new players

[veejur]

Put another way, what are we doing on this server to help lower the barrier of entry for new players so we can draw them to the game we love, and be successful by eventually reaching their goals and the goals of their peers? On the flip side, are we doing anything to make this more difficult than it needs to be? Overall, do we even want new players on the server? This isn't just a question about me.

[Kieu]

Originally Posted by Seredoc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as I can tell that guide works well except for the 18-24 and the 24-28, I think those ones are currently not "money spots" so to speak due to their higher difficulty or the lack of spider silk being as valuable.

You'd be correct. The money there is completely not going to happen with Wu's being uncraftable now. Not to mention the exp there is terrible. Although there is the OOT sisters around 24-28 which will always be good. 18-24, better off just sticking to oasis, and SK.

[Swish]

The server always wants new players, and the more people play the more they'll close the gap on the "average player" here.

If the mountain looks too steep, try climbing it anyway... before long you'll enjoy it for the game it is rather than looking at what everyone else is doing. There's way more to P99 than gear...making friends and having a good time are equally important if not moreso.

[Ravager]

I rolled an untwinked warrior and I'm having a lot of fun playing him without gear. It was a huge milestone for me to get full leather and I've camped a couple of Crookstingers. I've got a plan on how I'm going to level him and how I'm going to gear him as I go too. So far it's been far more rewarding than any of my super twinked alts that I hardly ever play.

[Seredoc]

Originally Posted by Kieu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You'd be correct. The money there is completely not going to happen with Wu's being uncraftable now. Not to mention the exp there is terrible. Although there is the OOT sisters around 24-28 which will always be good. 18-24, better off just sticking to oasis, and SK.

Yeah, personally as a warrior one alternate place I would add on there is NRO bandit camps as an alt to sisters. More accessible for evil races(EFFFF YOUUU UNICORN!!) and the bronze weapons drop often enough to make it worthwhile, of course they do hit harder but they are rarely if ever camped, less money but little to no competition.

I avoid oasis like the plague, spent about a week straight there and only got 2 levels, spent 2 nights in Lavastorm and gained 2 levels. My only problem is I can't find a group now cuz everyone is in oasis xD.

Been considering doing http://wiki.project1999.org/6-Minute_Bard_Diet once I get more info on how hard it is to do as a warrior, but that is a subject for another thread.

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server always wants new players, and the more people play the more they'll close the gap on the "average player" here.

If the mountain looks too steep, try climbing it anyway... before long you'll enjoy it for the game it is rather than looking at what everyone else is doing. There's way more to P99 than gear...making friends and having a good time are equally important if not moreso.

By far the most fun I have had playing have been those nights when things are getting late and the jokes start flying after setting up a camp. Doesn't matter that you want isn't dropping or that people might've taken a pull, the camaraderie is what I like the most.

Social games are for socializing XD

[Tulnavara]

Originally Posted by veejur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. Making 200p is not "easy" when you don't have handouts.

I'd just like to point out that it is incredibly easy to make 200 plat as long as you can kill skeletons, spiderlings, and bears.

HQ bear skins go for 20pp. A stack of bone chips 5-10pp. Stack of spiderling silk 20-25pp. If you're killing greens you don't have to worry about your weight limit at all either. You can easily get 10 HQ bear in a couple of hours of running around EC/WC slaughtering them all. I know, I just did it two weeks ago on a 55 str enchanter.

[skipdog]

My experience has been quite different on this server. Maybe it's the fact that I just put on a suit of banded, 4-5 super cheap <100pp +WIS items and leveled up without caring too much?

Don't worry about your gear. Just level up and the money will come in. I think you'll be surprised how many twinks you group with who won't even want to bother looting things like FS/bronze and the money will really add up. You will then get to sell these same items that you claim are so much more expensive than they were on live(which I just don't agree with anyways).

It would also be helpful for you to maybe list the specific items that you claim are so much more expensive here. I actually thought prices for low-end items were pretty dang cheap when I was buying stuff and it was the same case for a new bard alt that I just bought gear from.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Seredoc [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Social games are for socializing XD

This ^

I don't know why that's lost on so many people :/

[falkun]

Originally Posted by veejur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Put another way, what are we doing on this server to help lower the barrier of entry for new players so we can draw them to the game we love, and be successful by eventually reaching their goals and the goals of their peers?

As I've stated numerous times: mid-tier gear is undervalued on this server. You can wear mid-tier guild until you replace it with planar+ and still be successful at Everquest. There are also many helpful players that give out gear, buffs, and coin as "pay-it-forward" actions. Porters are usually very friendly and helpful to newbies as well.

Originally Posted by veejur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the flip side, are we doing anything to make this more difficult than it needs to be? Overall, do we even want new players on the server? This isn't just a question about me.

This server always wants new players. The real turn-off that I can see about P99 is the raid scene. The leveling/grouping has been awesome in my experience.

[Honest]

Originally Posted by veejur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Making 200p is not "easy" when you don't have handouts.

I easily made this on my first character on server, non twinked, camping nybright sisters for a single session. When I hit my high teens i moved to gargoyles in oot which drop eyes that sell for 10pp a pop with a chance to drop 2 eyes at once. Or NK to turn in lightstones for books at 10pp a pop. Then on to the sister islands for their swords. There are guards at the first bridge in Neriak you can kill at your early twenties that drop bronze/fs weapons you can sell. You can get a lot of decent monk gear for dirt cheap, Master Wu's Trance Stick alone will last you 30-40 lvls and you can get for 200pp. You reap what you sow. Play smart and the money will come. It may be hard for you to believe but there are people who started with nothing who have many shiny pixels today.