Could Velious launch this year? - Page 10

Iznog · #91 04-05-2013, 07:36 PM

Who was the god/ruler of plane of mischief, something about the 5 dragons, then what 4 giants have a chance to drop key to sleeper tomb.

Something like that

joppykid · #92 04-05-2013, 08:46 PM

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Who was the god/ruler of plane of mischief, something about the 5 dragons, then what 4 giants have a chance to drop key to sleeper tomb.

Something like that

Which 5 dragons drop the talismans for sleepers key (he wrote veeshans peak but everyone knew what he meant.) which 4 giants drop the alternative items for sleepers key and then first and last name of plane of mischief god.

Hailto · #93 04-05-2013, 08:47 PM

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As much as I love p99, and think it has superior quality, I find the endgame unplayable here. I want to do high end content, but I'm not willing to batphone/poopsock. I love the idea of raid tokens. This lets smaller guilds experience end game content, and it keeps the competitive aspect of racing as well.

I'd love to hear what people are thinking in terms of box combos. I'm thinking

mage/mage: Easy and powerful. The idea of two air pets, wielding stun whips makes me drool

monk/shaman: There's going to be a million of these combos, but it does sound fun.

mage/necro: Not quite as easymode as mage/mage, but fear kiting with a mage pet is very strong. Necro also allows for more creative pulls.

other ideas?

Box combos? You're going to be waiting a long time for that.

Noselacri · #94 04-05-2013, 10:32 PM

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Hmmm, is this you?

No, I don't type like a high school dropout. Should be pretty fucking easy to tell the difference.

Noselacri · #95 04-05-2013, 11:58 PM

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As much as I love p99, and think it has superior quality, I find the endgame unplayable here. I want to do high end content, but I'm not willing to batphone/poopsock. I love the idea of raid tokens. This lets smaller guilds experience end game content, and it keeps the competitive aspect of racing as well.

I asked Kegz once and he said the raid token system would only be implemented if it becomes strictly necessary, i.e. if the endgame becomes like it has been on P99. I encouraged him to at least prepare the system beforehand and consider the possibility of implementing it from the start since the main reason people might move from P99 to The Sleeper is because raiding is basically not an option for most players here due to the monopoly. Considering the nature of players who play on emu servers, there isn't enough content in Everquest for even two dedicated raid guilds. We've seen this quite clearly here and on VZ/TZ. Any more than one raid guild and they'll be fighting over everything. Even if they could miraculously agree to share, there isn't actually enough content to go around, you wouldn't be able to have regularly scheduled raid nights.

A dynamic spawning system would do wonders and would be the thing that might save what looks to be an otherwise very mediocre server that can't hope to compete with P99 in terms of quality and support. The Sleeper could be the server where everyone gets a chance to raid, but for all their apparent dedication to launching the server, they aren't exactly a bastion of design acumen and common sense. Between that and two-boxing, it would be the server that offers everything P99 does not; I just won't put money on their ability to do anything right, judging by what I've seen so far. They're all good intentions and bad decisions.

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I'd love to hear what people are thinking in terms of box combos. I'm thinking

mage/mage: Easy and powerful. The idea of two air pets, wielding stun whips makes me drool

monk/shaman: There's going to be a million of these combos, but it does sound fun.

mage/necro: Not quite as easymode as mage/mage, but fear kiting with a mage pet is very strong. Necro also allows for more creative pulls.

other ideas?

Gotta consider two things with a 2-box: can it do everything well enough, and is it useful outside of just duoing? I mean, what the hell are you gonna do with two mages besides grind easy mobs? You aren't doing much in the way of high-end farming or hard quests, and you don't have a setup that people will be begging to team up with. Mages aren't exactly God's gift to raiding. Also, never 2-box two classes that need the exact same gear.

Shaman works with any melee except rogue. Monk is best for leveling, shadowknight is best for farming difficult named mobs, and warrior is kind of in-between but you get to main tank raids if you want. Shaman/ranger would actually be pretty cool, especially since Velious fixes the shitty ranger skill caps and gives them some solid disciplines.

Cleric is a pretty shitty duo class except with enchanter. Great for joining groups and raids, though. Druid is better for duoing with a chanter but not so great for raids. Shaman isn't meant to duo with a caster, but they're actually good with a mage.

Don't duo a bard unless you specifically want to have a bard character. If they do end up removing /melody, the class is basically unboxable. If they keep /melody, it'll be boxable but doesn't duo well with anybody. If you want a bard, pair it with a wizard and quad kite to infinite and beyond.

Necros are alright with druids, clerics and mages, but not the best choice for any of them. Nothing really has strong synergy with necro since they don't particularly need any buffs and rely on techniques that are hard to fit into a duo.

Swish · #96 04-06-2013, 09:43 AM

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Gotta consider two things with a 2-box: can it do everything well enough, and is it useful outside of just duoing? I mean, what the hell are you gonna do with two mages besides grind easy mobs? You aren't doing much in the way of high-end farming or hard quests, and you don't have a setup that people will be begging to team up with. Mages aren't exactly God's gift to raiding. Also, never 2-box two classes that need the exact same gear.

Because people don't read an entire thread, lets be clear and assume Noselacri is talking about the EQ Live server, not P99. He wouldn't box here, would he? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't want people thinking they can box and say in their only defence "a guy was talking about it on the forums"... word had it Zade was dropping the banhammer on red yesterday to the boxers, after giving a warning he was about to do it.

(Velious threads and people discussing 2-boxing... two big hates [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

Sularus Oth Mithas · #97 04-06-2013, 10:24 AM

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Because people don't read an entire thread, lets be clear and assume Noselacri is talking about the EQ Live server, not P99. He wouldn't box here, would he? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wouldn't want people thinking they can box and say in their only defence "a guy was talking about it on the forums"... word had it Zade was dropping the banhammer on red yesterday to the boxers, after giving a warning he was about to do it.

(Velious threads and people discussing 2-boxing... two big hates [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

Sleeper server is allowing boxing, that is the boxing they were discussing.

Vadd · #98 04-06-2013, 10:36 AM

From what I gather, I see the opening of The Sleeper as being one big, huge, crazy prenerf camp fest.

Nothin wrong wit that though.

Ephirith · #99 04-06-2013, 03:32 PM

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3) we are diligently working on Velious, and hope to open beta this year.

Sularus Oth Mithas · #**100** 04-06-2013, 03:59 PM

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Did you just wizz in Swish's cereal? I think you did.