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Old 04-05-2013, 05:50 AM
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YES BECAUSE EVERYONE WE'VE EVER MURDERED HAS BEEN PART OF AN EXTREMELY WEALTHY HEROIN CARTEL?
i can only speak of the conflicts i participated in, and yes of every single "enemy" combat casualty (over 100+) it was either a training camp raid scenario sponsored/manned by a psuedo drug/mafia like organization or an attempt to arrest members of said organization who undermine/threaten the afghan voted in goverment (much like in mexico tbh)

i cannot speak for iraq, and i cannot speak for conflicts i was not involved in

i can only assume, and unlike you i respect the old saying in relation to assuming you know certain things

also it's not "WE" individuals are responsible for their personal actions
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:52 AM
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how do you people continue to take hbb seriously
it was obviously bait from the start but i like arguing/displaying my opinions on the internet

or why else would i participate in internet forums
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Old 04-05-2013, 05:54 AM
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Try telling that to a mother whose bloody child is limp in her arms. You try telling her that it was the individual soldiers responsibility, and that the US as a whole has nothing to do with it. Tell it to the child who will grow up fatherless and on the streets because some gung ho fuck thought his cellphone was a weapon. You tell them it had nothing to do with you buddy.

You're a cog in the machine, as am I, and that makes us culpable for the woes of the machine.

To deny that is inhuman.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:02 AM
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i grew up without a father and it had nothing to do with soldiers or conflict its called life situations that are unfair happen

children get hit by cars every day and die and you could consider that unfair as well and i guess you could hold the driver responsible technically, but honestly mistakes happen when human elements are involved in anything in life

you are trying to hold an organization, run and created by human beings to a standard that is above humanity in general
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:04 AM
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No, I'm holding individuals who perpetuate an organization responsible for the actions of that organization.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:06 AM
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There is no such thing as a Good German.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:07 AM
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the individuals responsible for the actions of that organization are the voters who vote in congressmen who as an entity have the real decision making power for what our military is ordered to do

so you are not anti military, you are anti average US citizen
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:12 AM
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The military could not function without soldiers, seamen, airmen, and marines. Therefore all troops are culpable for holding up the military.

But you're also right about average citizens being culpable as well.

When a hitman kills, the killer as well as the employer can be charged with murder.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:13 AM
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And really thats all military people are: actual or latent contract killers.
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Old 04-05-2013, 06:15 AM
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And you don't even have the balls to embrace your proud mercenary heritage. Instead you lie (mostly to yourselves) and euphemize your "getting paid to possibly have to kill other people" to "service," which brings me no end of laughter.
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