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Old 03-08-2013, 02:58 PM
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Moral of the stories in here? Turn on logging in your ini.
^this is what facts look like. Apparently logs are the magic win button. Don't they just output to a txt file? To me that seems easier to manipulate than a screenshot..
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:03 PM
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Zetas has a monk, Moszetas... camp stealer, incompetent griefer, crybaby extraordinaire ... but also a coward! GM's will run him off just petition
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:05 PM
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^this is what facts look like. Apparently logs are the magic win button. Don't they just output to a txt file? To me that seems easier to manipulate than a screenshot..
You'd have to be pretty damn dedicated to manipulate more than 5-10 seconds of a log file. An active log has a dozen or more entries per second when there is combat going on or OOC or anything. Guides can probably check for accuracy against their own los also, for things said in /ooc or timing and such.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:35 PM
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You'd have to be pretty damn dedicated to manipulate more than 5-10 seconds of a log file. An active log has a dozen or more entries per second when there is combat going on or OOC or anything. Guides can probably check for accuracy against their own los also, for things said in /ooc or timing and such.
The number of entries doesn't really matter. It's a snap to search a text doc. It takes much more time and dedication to alter a screenshot.
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:39 PM
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No one argued it is easier to alter a SS than a log. Probably because that is 99% irrelevant here.

If you produce hundreds of lines of a legit log file backing up your side of the story and send them via PM to a guide, odds are the dude you're up against isn't going to produce hundreds of lines (+1) of illegitimate log file to get you screwed over.


Again. Moral of the story = /log on.
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:44 PM
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I don't know what it is about this server compared to live but I really don't remember people being such enormous pricks about camps back in the day. I've taken so much shit from people here taking over my groups' camps after a wipe and rule-lawyering, or my favorite, a friend of mine who was quadding specs went afk for like ten minutes while he was medding, came back to find some assclown necro or druid or something standing in the camp who proceeds to KS the spawn. Friend tells him to amscray and the guy's response is "I OOC'D AND U SAID NOTHING TO CALL CAMP NO CALL CAMP CAMP MINE," are you shitting me? You can't get up to take a piss or microwave a burrito without some dick imperialising your camp?

I think WoW is to blame. Four or five or whatever years of "there are no camps in WoW" has ruined peoples' ability to respect the fact that someone else was goddamn there first.
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:47 PM
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Through my time playing MMOs what I've learned is that people on the internet IN GENERAL are enormous pricks about everything.

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I don't know what it is about this server compared to live but I really don't remember people being such enormous pricks about camps back in the day. I've taken so much shit from people here taking over my groups' camps after a wipe and rule-lawyering, or my favorite, a friend of mine who was quadding specs went afk for like ten minutes while he was medding, came back to find some assclown necro or druid or something standing in the camp who proceeds to KS the spawn. Friend tells him to amscray and the guy's response is "I OOC'D AND U SAID NOTHING TO CALL CAMP NO CALL CAMP CAMP MINE," are you shitting me? You can't get up to take a piss or microwave a burrito without some dick imperialising your camp?

I think WoW is to blame. Four or five or whatever years of "there are no camps in WoW" has ruined peoples' ability to respect the fact that someone else was goddamn there first.
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:52 PM
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i love how OP speaks in code as if to keep Hadden a secret

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Old 03-08-2013, 06:54 PM
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I don't know what it is about this server compared to live but I really don't remember people being such enormous pricks about camps back in the day. I've taken so much shit from people here taking over my groups' camps after a wipe and rule-lawyering, or my favorite, a friend of mine who was quadding specs went afk for like ten minutes while he was medding, came back to find some assclown necro or druid or something standing in the camp who proceeds to KS the spawn. Friend tells him to amscray and the guy's response is "I OOC'D AND U SAID NOTHING TO CALL CAMP NO CALL CAMP CAMP MINE," are you shitting me? You can't get up to take a piss or microwave a burrito without some dick imperialising your camp?

I think WoW is to blame. Four or five or whatever years of "there are no camps in WoW" has ruined peoples' ability to respect the fact that someone else was goddamn there first.
I'm pretty sure this is actually classic. Majority of people who played in 99/00 were 13 years old. What amazes is that people are still doing it NOW. Now that they are 25+

Are you serious!?
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Old 03-08-2013, 06:57 PM
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That's a good point. I dunno, I was 15 and if anything I took this game way, way too seriously, so maybe I projected some of my 15 year old paladin self running around administering justice onto the rest of the community and it really was just as bad as it is now. Would make a lot more sense that way.
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