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Old 06-28-2010, 01:50 AM
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Huh...

Loot aside, I figure what he was doing is an exploit. You have charmed a mob. You cannot heal that mob but know if you don't do something, the next spawn will kill your 'pet'. SO, you zone out. Mob loses charm right away and the un-natural healing they do when not being affected by a player kicks in. You zone back in, YAY to fully healed npc tank. Wouldn't it have been faster to camp out and come back in game right away?

You are taking advantage of the system by zoning out.
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:05 AM
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Huh...

Loot aside, I figure what he was doing is an exploit. You have charmed a mob. You cannot heal that mob but know if you don't do something, the next spawn will kill your 'pet'. SO, you zone out. Mob loses charm right away and the un-natural healing they do when not being affected by a player kicks in. You zone back in, YAY to fully healed npc tank. Wouldn't it have been faster to camp out and come back in game right away?

You are taking advantage of the system by zoning out.
If you aren't just trolling and trying to stir up shit, but actually serious instead, then wow, simply wow.

rofl, wow
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:19 AM
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The difference is that the enchanter took the camp after a significant amount of time, and without prior knowledge. It was 20+ minutes. And there's no evidence that he knew the group had been there. Only after he had done a significant amount of work to clear the PH did the group return. It is only fair that he's afforded the very minimal courtesy of owning the rights to his one re-pop. It's not fair for him to do 20 minutes worth of work only to have a group show up and claim his prize. The group had been there longer, they owned the camp: fine. He agreed to that. But he owned the one re-pop that he had just cleared for. Both sides of that, IMO, represent the most fair solution.

The unfortunate fact is that his 1/100 chance of the King spawning with the Mithril 2-hander hit, and the group -- recognizing their position of power over a slower-working, more vulnerable solo'er -- stole the mob when given the opportunity.

Had the enchanter been waiting for the camp, watched the group wipe, and then swooped in, I would have been a lot closer to your point of view: an eye for an eye, basically. But that's not what happened, according to available evidence. He just stumbled upon what he very reasonably deemed an open camp, and he took it. When he was alerted that it was not, in fact, an open camp, he agreed to relinquish it, only claiming the rights to one mob that he had spent the past 15-20 minutes clearing for. I don't see that as being a dick, I really don't.
They had to have been lying, it doesn't take nearly that long to do a CR for king.
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:30 AM
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If you aren't just trolling and trying to stir up shit, but actually serious instead, then wow, simply wow.

rofl, wow

Nope, really it was the first thing that came to my mind. There is a loop hole here and it is being used. If it is on the up and up to do that, all the power to him. I've only ever played a ranger so in my book when you solo, it is kill or be killed.


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Old 06-28-2010, 02:36 AM
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Nope, really it was the first thing that came to my mind. There is a loop hole here and it is being used. If it is on the up and up to do that, all the power to him. I've only ever played a ranger so I have no clue what the hell I am talking about.


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Old 06-28-2010, 02:49 AM
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Nope, really it was the first thing that came to my mind. There is a loop hole here and it is being used. If it is on the up and up to do that, all the power to him. I've only ever played a ranger so in my book when you solo, it is kill or be killed.


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rofl, alrighty then

props for standing your ground I suppose. I'll be running to the zone if it's hopeless, lol
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Old 06-28-2010, 02:58 AM
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Depends on the zone really. If I do something stupid, why train folks at the zone in?
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Depends on the zone really. If I do something stupid, why train folks at the zone in?
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Old 06-28-2010, 03:22 AM
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It's a borderline exploit that enchanters zone to heal their charms, agreed. But half of what makes up good EverQuest strategy is borderline exploitation. You're given the rules with which you have to work. It's not like he's duping items with a merchant or something.

When a pet user and a rogue duo, and the pet user roots the mob (thus enabling pet to tank via range aggro), that's an exploit of sorts -- the clear intent of the creators was to disallow pet tanking with other melees in group. Chain-petting mages are exploits of sorts. I doubt the game's creators had realized that a mage, when his pet was in trouble, would be better off allowing it to die and summoning a new one than attempting to heal and/or otherwise save their current. They're strategies as much as exploits.
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Old 06-28-2010, 03:27 AM
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