Black Sock Down: Helicopter<FE> crashes and burns cheating for FTE

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dude dug his own grave. poor guy just grasping at straws now

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So... you removed an RMTer in your ranks... no longer there... no current cheaters in guild... FE removes Helicopter... even-steven?

RMT isnt Botting. They are hardly comparable.

So not quite.

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

RMT isnt Botting. They are hardly comparable.

So not quite.

both against the rules. while one gets you a ban the other gets you a 3 day suspension. Your opinions on RMT isn't valid. bottom line is you just got caught in a lie and your guild is just as dirty as any other fucking guild to ever have played here

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The main reason he was allowed to rejoin, iirc, is because he turned himself in and accepted all the punishment for that character.

When he reapplied as a bard people voted on it and let him in, at that point everyone knew that he used autofire (or whatever) and that he RMT'd.

so there ya go.

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Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/deflect/distract/spin


Facts:

TMO doesnt keep cheating members in the guild (unless you admit you cheat b4 hand then we welcome you with open arms)
FE does.

/discuss

k fixed Alarti's fact then

[finalgrunt]

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"Eccezan tells the guild, 'WARNING-IF you choose to run certain "programs/software", or do questionable acts which could be bannable, USE and ALT, even better if unguilded. I do not want to see another guild main banned. Thank you continue with your day."

Reading comprehension:

#1 By saying USE and ALT, Eccezan accepts the idea of a guild member doing it under guild tag. Otherwise he would have said "don't do it, even on an alt".

#2 By saying "I do not want to see another guild main banned", the "main" precision again highlights the fact that the issue here, is seeing a main banned. Either because it lowers the raiding capacity, or because of reputation, we don't know. But an ALT is OK.

#3 Eccezan do not explicitely say "do cheat please". But the rhetoric here falls under the "IF you were to do it, I don't want to know about it". It's an unworded consent. Nobody is naive here.

This proves beyond any doubt that TMO's supposed hard policy against cheating is just a huge lie.

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Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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"Eccezan tells the guild, 'WARNING-IF you choose to run certain "programs/software", or do questionable acts which could be bannable, USE and ALT, even better if unguilded. I do not want to see another guild main banned. Thank you continue with your day."

Reading comprehension:

#1 By saying USE and ALT, Eccezan accepts the idea of a guild member doing it under guild tag. Otherwise he would have said "don't do it, even on an alt".

#2 By saying "I do not want to see another guild main banned", the "main" precision again highlights the fact that the issue here, is seeing a main banned. Either because it lowers the raiding capacity, or because of reputation, we don't know. But an ALT is OK.

#3 Eccezan do not explicitely say "do cheat please". But the rhetoric here falls under the "IF you were to do it, I don't want to know about it". It's an unworded consent. Nobody is naive here.

This proves beyond any doubt that TMO's supposed hard policy against cheating is just a huge lie.

Except that this was after the mass banning when TMO members weren't allowed Alts or only an alt that could be considered a main (aka raid capable, which we didn't have many of then).

So dumb.

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except that this was after the mass banning when TMO members weren't allowed Alts or only an alt that could be considered a main (aka raid capable, which we didn't have many of then).

So dumb.

Implying its real. Thanks, that was the only missing piece of information about that screenshot.

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Except that this was after the mass banning when TMO members weren't allowed Alts or only an alt that could be considered a main (aka raid capable, which we didn't have many of then).

So dumb.

And your point is? Because what I said remains true.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Relapse2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

both against the rules. while one gets you a ban the other gets you a 3 day suspension. Your opinions on RMT isn't valid. bottom line is you just got caught in a lie and your guild is just as dirty as any other fucking guild to ever have played here

Please tell me what I got caught lying about?

Also, I find it hard to believe that Hellicopter/Myuharin's suspension will only be 3 days. Alovia is a very new guide and its unlikely something like that wont get extended or even moved to a perma-ban.