To hate or not to hate?

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game doesn't suck at all, it just so happens that it's being overrun by cellar-dwelling potheads with little or no social skills. The devs have done a fantastic job of re-creating the magical place that existed in 1999, unfortunately they can't turn back the clock and make the "new generation" of MMO players patient or sociable.

Was looking for a description of some of the deplorable players on this server.

Perfect!

[oldhead]

to answer the OP question.. yes HATE!

Give no slack to that type of player.

I dont =)

[Alawen Everywhere]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game doesn't suck at all, it just so happens that it's being overrun by cellar-dwelling potheads with little or no social skills. The devs have done a fantastic job of re-creating the magical place that existed in 1999, unfortunately they can't turn back the clock and make the "new generation" of MMO players patient or sociable.

I agree that the developers have demonstrated dedication and ability far beyond anyone's expectation or imagination. Unfortunately, the world just isn't very big in classic and there isn't much room to avoid the bad apples.

[Vladesch]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The game doesn't suck at all, it just so happens that it's being overrun by cellar-dwelling potheads with little or no social skills. The devs have done a fantastic job of re-creating the magical place that existed in 1999, unfortunately they can't turn back the clock and make the "new generation" of MMO players patient or sociable.

Sorry but the fact that people can KS, or even find the need to KS is a direct result of the game and its mechanics.
This isnt meant as a plug for WOW, because Ive played that and it has its own problems which Im not going to write an essay on right now, but as far as kill stealing and camps are concerned there are 2 major improvements Wow made over EQ. First is the first to get agro on a mob gets the kill, regardless of who does the most damage. No more getting quillmane down to 40% and then have some level 50 nuke the crap out of it and KS you in wow.
The second is that in WOW you are essentially competing against the difficulty of the game. Yes I said it. The difficulty of the game. In EQ most of the "difficulty" is other players. The way things are made rare is by having a single serverwide spawn, which is then a rare spawn and requires you to camp it for long periods to get.
So the supply for said items is very slow, but of course every man and his dog wants one, and thus people fight over camps, KS, train on another etc etc etc. None of this happened in WOW, with a couple of exceptions being a few world pops, mainly dragons, and guess what? WOW had exactly the same sort of problems with these spawns, and IMO these dragons should have been instanced too.

I like a good challenge, and Ive enjoyed what Ive played of P1999 so far, but what I see happening at the high end is worse than what I remember from classic eq, and Im trying to tell myself that it really isnt worth playing my characters up anymore, becuase I know its just going to be continuous grief and fighting against other players, and frankly thats not fun.

And no, Im not going back to WOW. Ive done that enough times already and im pretty much sick of WOW. Yes it is too easy for general levelling. I wouldnt say that about raiding, or at least the initial raiding that WOW presented before they released outland. Original Naxx and aq40 and even that dragon ionstance before you had the gear were pretty tough and demanded a lot of coordination. A lot of the encounters just took 1 person to fuck up and it would wipe the raid (electricity boss in original Naxx anyone)

It was just the levelling up in WOW which was too easy, and too fast too. I hate it when servers are over 50% composed of max level people running about.

Anyway thatsmy take on things here. The game sucks, period because it encourages bad behaviour from the players. Doesnt mean Ill stop playing it. I like the difficulty in spite of the problems caused by the other players. Im thankful I play during an odd time zone, so things aren't quite as bad, but its still hopeless trying to actually get some decent loot for yourself. Anything decent is camped 24/7.

Blah.

[JayDee]

Once you level and become 50, the fun gets sapped right out of non-pvp. Camping raid mob for days and accruing cred/dkp so you can acquire an item.

Even when you get everything you want, you eventually will get bored and roll another toon. People don't realize they are having the most fun leveling. That is when you feel you are achieving the most and socializing with the most people.

If i had my way, I would slow down leveling (won't happen so don't start throwing stones). If you remember on live, it took most people months to grind to 50, where here everyone knows the tricks and has access to pl's. I did 1-50 in like 6 days played with no PL.

Dunno, it just seems like a race to the top nowadays instead of enjoying the experience like the olden days. Nothing we can do about it rly.

[President]

Originally Posted by frefaln [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cellar-dwelling potheads with little or no social skills.

Interestingly enough I generally find more sober people with less social skills than stoned people.

[Vyal]

I just dont see how it keeps people coming back... It gets old very very very fast like in two weeks you own everything have mass plat and every items you need to fuck a gnoll up. Guilds zerg spawns there is no challenge at all, you guys should check what EQ is now its pretty sweet and you will spend 5 months and still not see every new zone.

Go play real game? Get a xbox... dunno till kunark comes out here I wont be playing.

[quido]

Consoles are the schwag of the gaming world.

[rioisk]

Originally Posted by jarooneh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. I was not convinced since it was a magi with backstab pet.

Mages don't have BS pets until Kunark.

[darkblade717]

Originally Posted by jarooneh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I was camping a highly sought after mob. I was getting bored n tired and another player asked if the mob was camped. I politely answered yes.

Quickly thereafter, I offered them the camp. I was tired, but wanted to kill the mob one last time because it was being a pain.

I told this player I was engaging the mob the last time and they proceeded to attack. I asked them to back their pet off yet they proceeded insisting I would KS. I was not convinced since it was a magi with backstab pet.

They won the battle off of my mana and my fears.

Now, I asked them not to loot out of consideration. This player looted and sat on the corpse for over 20 seconds then responded to me in say that there was nothing.

This...was curious. The whole scenario was curious.

What does a player do? Do I slander their name and say they are a KS'er or do I just tell friends and folks I know that they are not to be trusted?

Mage pets don't backstab until 54.